Tuesday, 16 September 2025

The killing of Charlie Kirk considered.

(Up-dated with annotated images)



CONTEXT

I have always been suspicious, I think with some justification, of high profile violent events with political or military implications or ramifications. I have devoted articles and a good deal of time to many of them, highlighting problems and apparent coincidences in the official and approved explanations. 

Some of those articles, such as the one on the murder of British soldier Lee Rigby on 19th December, 2013, have mysteriously disappeared from MY Google Blog platform ( https://veaterecosan.blogspot.com/ ) and cannot be traced. Other articles have also been removed without explanation, other than a claim they breach site rules. However many more have survived and can be still viewed. 

17.9.2025: I have just come across this video that provides a discussion on an 'unsurvivable injury".

Forensic discussion of the bullet woundhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvCv4I_cwbU

SUMMARY OF EVENTS

Broadly speaking, the tragic shooting and death of Charles Kirk at a Utah University is an incident that immediately sparks my questioning interest. I have no reason to doubt the official narrative other than when I have difficulty reconciling it with some of the reported details. Circumstantial and coincidental factors can also prove surprising and intriguing. Perhaps they are no more than that, but even so are worth noting.

Charles James Kirk aged 31 was a political activist and internet media star credited to securing millions of young person votes to the MAGA (Make America Great Again) Donald Trump election victory. To right-wing politics he was an inspirational, free-thinking icon; to left-wingers he could be demonised as a gun-loving fascist. Being wholeheartedly supportive of Israel, in recent months he had shown skeptism of its position and actions. Some have suggested that this change of view may have contributed to his brutal demise. 

It is interesting that his alleged killer, 22 year old Tyler Robinson, has subequently been implicated in gay cross dressing and romantically attached to a trans-gender man his own age, with a suggestion these may have provided the psychological motivation for the killing. Strange mottos were also said to have been found on three unused bullets. Both this and the violent deed seem odds with what appears to be a loving and American middle class family, with traditional conservative outlook. If true he had obviously undergone a seizmic character change. The bullet information appears to me to be contrived and theatrical, suggesting third party involvement to propagandise.

Kirk was speaking at a Trump-supporting Republican rally at the Utah Valley University and was shot at approximately 12.30 pm local time sitting in front of a crowd of about two hundred mainly local students. Ironically, in answer to a question about gun ownership and mass killings, his last recorded word was "violence"!



POOR SECURITY STRANGE.

The first surprising aspect of the incident is the lax State and National security, particularly following the attempted assassination - if such it was - of President Trump. Kirk was Trump's firm supporter and had been the main reason he had got the youth vote. It was not rocket science to imagine or predict, that whatever provoked the Trump incident might provoke another, yet there appears to have been a complete lack of checks or controls at the event. No monitoring, no frisking, no security perimeter, no FBI. Only six policemen allottted. 

Given the Trump scenario, no attempt to check roof-tops, yet intriguingly a drone flew over the site immediately after the shot was fired!  A video shows someone from the crowd actually carrying a pistol.  Given American history, incredibly, no attempt it seems was made to ensure no weapons were brought to the event. One man in the crowd is even reported to claiming he shot Kirk. Another is recorded appearing to show delight and triumph. Other official types are recorded making military standard gestures indicating hit approval.  All these features are highly suspicious.

Kirk was separated from the crowd by temporary barriers and a phalanx of what seem like private 'bouncers'. We have no information on their backgrounds or how they were chosen, but their role appeared to be limited to crowd control and stopping a physical invasion of the stage rather than any armed protection or event security management. A number of unidentified individuals immediately stepped in to carry Kirk's body to a waiting vehicle in which he was conveyed to hospital. The nature of that vehicle is not clear but it seems unlikely it was an ambulance. I have seen no evidence of all or any First Aid response. Rather it seems an assumption was immediately made that he was dead and beyond resussitation techniques to revive him. It however does pose the question whether any of those responding were medically or first aid trained or if the response overall was appropriate?

TIMING AND NUMBERS

In numerous other high profile terror events I have highlighted suspicious numerical and anniversary features. Of course these are always dismissed as mere coincidence or conspiracy-minded thinking. Nevertheless I am convinced that state organised terror has a particular penchant for them - a sort of private insider 'joke'. We see it constantly eminating from the IDF in Gaza.  We see it in the private E-mails between Mandelson and Epstein. Little trademark details that ring out to those in the know but pass unnoticed by the general public. Do we have any with the Charlie Kirk killing that might give the game away that this was a 'deep state' or organised crime murder?  I think we may.

The first and most obvious is the fact that it happened on the day before perhaps the most significant date in the American calender - the eleventh of September - or the eponymous '9/11' the date of the alleged Osama bin Laden inspired attacks on New York and Washington. The fact that we now know the official explanation of it is pure fabrication, adds a certain frisson to the Kirk events. 

We should also note that somehow six thousand miles away Benjamin Netanyahu managed to beat America to the 'starting gun', referencing Kirk's death before it had been officially confirmed, and referring to 9/11 as justification for going after Hamas terrorists wherever they may be, even if it breaks protocols or international law. (https://x.com/i/status/1968511432032391272 ) Can we ignore the fact that Kirk's murder, and its distraction quality, comes only a day after the highly controversial Israeli attack (with British and American tactical support) of Qatar on 9th September, 2025? (SEE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRAay8S2dqA )

As George Galloway has pointed out in his usual forthright manner, it is an insult to our intelligence to claim, as Netanyahu did, that it it would be 'antisenitic' to link Israel directly or indirectly with the killing, despite the fact that Israel has proved itself to be the undisputed premier assassinating state of the 20th and 21st Centuries.  It also demonstrated a certain foresight before there had been time to do so. It reminds me of the famous Shakespean phrase from Hamlet, "Methinks the lady doth protest too much"

No one can overlook the fact that Kirk was an influencial figure particularly to the young voter, nor that he had in recent months showed signs of turning decisively against Israel's policy and action. We might reasonably conclude that if Trump's ear was a warning shot, the murder of his disciple was a confirmation of it! "Stay true to Israel or else!"

So the shooting took place the day before the historic 9/11 event exactly twenty-four years prior.  Note that significant association if you will, that Netanyahu specifically refers to with spooky prescience. You will also remember that he also made much of the fact that 'October 7th' was Israel's 9/11.  In both cases he uses it to justify Israel's illegal and devastating pre-emptive and retributive actions both at home and abroad. He is very fond of referencing both American and European wartime actions to exhonerate his own. His denials of involvement in the Kirk killing before it was even widely known is certainly highly suspicious.

But now some more rather eerie statistical 'coincidences'.  Trump was shot on 13.7.2024; Kirk on the 10.9.2025.  If we add the sum of both sets, the aggregate is the same - sixty-four (64)!  Numerically 64 is a special number, not least it is the product of eight eights, the same as that of a chess board, hence the illustration at the top of the article. If eight metaphorically is the sign of eternity, how much more so eight eights. We can say with some confidence it is almost messianic! 

What are the chances that the two related shootings should produce the same significant number with Masonic overtones, the chequered pattern symbolic of policing and that secret organisation synonymous to the deep state? To quote the Google 'AI overview', "The Masonic meaning of 64 can be derived from its mathematical properties and its representation on the 64-square mosaic pavement64 is the square of 8 and the cube of 4, with 4 symbolizing the four elements, four directions, and the three-dimensional material world. Therefore, the 64-square mosaic pavement can be interpreted as representing the world and its perceived reality." 

Whilst talking of possible Masonic connections, I couldn't help noticing a police spokeswoman referred specifically to it taking thirty-three (33) hours to capture Robinson 250 miles away as a result of the tip-off by his police man father. 

Again I quote: "33 primarily signifies the 33rd Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, the highest honorary and administrative degree awarded for exceptional service, wisdom, and leadership within the fraternityEsoterically, it's linked to spiritual enlightenment, mastery, and the symbolism of the human spine's 33 vertebrae, representing a connection between the physical and spiritual. It's not automatically earned but is a supreme honor conferred upon those with outstanding accomplishments and dedication to Masonic principles."  

Was that an embedded hint or just another coincidence?  It also begs the question whether the family, that must have been rocked by the decision, is now in line for the FBI's $100,000 reward?  

In another coincidence, the accused Tyler Robinson, shares the same adopted name of the right wing, zionist supporter Stephen Yaxley Lennon, OKA "Tommy Robinson", who only three days after the Kirk shooting was heading up one of the biggest right-wing demonstrations, London has ever seen. As far as we know, there is no actual or practical connection between the two men, but the alignment of the two events is interesting and may suggest an element of planning, if as has been suggested, Israel was somehow in the mix. The London rally referred to was overtly anti-Muslim and pro-Israel activity particularly in Gaza.

POLITICAL BLAMING

President Trump in his post-murder address was quick to point the blame at 'left-wing groups'.  Next day after the incident he stated, "Radicals on the left are the problem". However if the man arrested as the likely shooter - and as I shall show there are substantive reasons to question that view - he couldn't have been more wrong. To all obvious appearances, Tyler Robinson came from a loving, stable Mormon and Republican background, though the suggestion of a gay relationship with a trans-sexual male, if true, might suggest he had taken on a more liberal and left-leaning life-style. Alternatively it may reflect the need to portray him in a certain light to support a fabricated criminal charge, much in the vein of Harvey Oswald and others?

SUSPICIOUS CROWD FACTS

As George Galloway has eloquently pointed out in his usual challenging style, there are many features of the event that are suspicious, to say the least. I have already mentioned the deplorable security, quite inexplicable in the context of the Trump shooting, but there are others. (See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_koGTh6T5c  )

There is the fact that a recumbant shooter on the roof of the 'Losee Centre' was missed, yet immediately after the shooting a drone was observed over the event. Drone surrveillance prior to the event is so elementary and fundamental a precaution, it beggars belief it was not done, particulary if a drone was in the air immediately after. If there had been, an unauthorised man on the roof with a rifle would surely have been spotted?

Suspicious military hand signals and gestures have been caught on camera by security types plus one attendee displaying triumphal gestures. These can hardly be dismissed and are remeniscent of the the Boston Bombing amongst other highly speculative events, President Kennedy's assassination in particular, a case study in conspiracy and cover-up by State agencies, in concert with skilled criminals, to weave a false narrative.

Galloway states that in Morman Utah, one overt Jew was present who loudly claimed responsibility. If true this would blow the official story out the water and confirm the event was planned to point the finger at the wrong person - effectively a 'patsy'. Further Galloway states video reveals a man in the crowd actually carrying a revolver, incredible as it may seem. The wound suffered by Kirk should, if the post mortem was not doctored as per Kennedy, should prove conclusively the trajectory and origin of the bullet fatal shot. Did it come from the front or from the side and if the latter which side?

SHOOTER PROBLEMS

Some of the problems with the official story, that Robinson climbed up onto the distant roof, lay there in prone position without being detected, fired one fatal shot, hitting Kirk in the neck and then escaping from the scene whilst being caught on security cameras, seems to me to be so obviously and fundamentally flawed, making it physically impossible and the story therefore fraudulent and contrived!

The claimed shooter on the roof scenario eerily replicates Trump's assassination attempt, an attempt that the highly experienced retired Col. Douglas Macgregor (See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-HQ6YgkZJAhas poured scorn on. He has pointed out, had the first shot not found its intended target, the second or third certainly would have immediately after, before he himself was despatched by agents of the state. 

In this case there is a parallel scenario, though this time we are asked to believe just one shot found its target, from a distance of about 150 yards, by a young man who appears to have been a novice shooter.  Why may we ask from that distance did he not fire off additional shots? And if fired from the suggested location, the bullet would surely have passed through or lodged in the screen behind Kirk.  I have seen no evidence, photographic or otherwise, presented that happened. So where did the bullet go? Where were the used casings found?

Kirk was apparently sitting when he was shot. A witness stated he saw blood on the left side of his neck and he collapsed in that direction. Another report states he fell backwards. We have not been told whether the injury was from a glancing blow or whether the bullet came from a different direction entirely but from the post mortem report, police must know this, whether or not they have revealed it. Apparently a video circulated showing the moment of impact but I haven't seen it myself.

Galloway claimed that the photographs of the faces of the suspected man and the arrested man do not match. I could not be sure. However there is other disconcerting video evidence, if not clearing Robinson certain throws extreme doubt on the official story to the point of it being just not credible. One photo shows him wearing a RED sweatshirt, others a BLACK one with American flag emblazoned on it.

The weapon were are told was a bolt action rifle. The images of the accused accessing the building and roof show no  evidence of him carrying the weapon or any weapon. The explanation that he concealed in his trousers, given its size and bulk is simply risible. An explanation that the weapon had previously been situated in building might still be available but this too is scotched by the mismatch between the subsequent video and reports.

The claimed attacker is seen exiting the building roof quite gymnastically, holding the ledge with one arm and dropping onto grass from about fifteen feet. Importantly there is no sign of a rifle being carried or thrown before or after he leaves the roof, yet somehow miraculously it is discovered in the woods to which he is said to resort. There the incriminating messages are found on the three unused shells still in the rifle. 

To further muddy the waters, two different versions of the gun are exhibited as being the weapon used. (See images below) It was stated the Mauser .30-caliber, bolt-action rifle was discovered in the campas wooded area 'wrapped in a towel', yet there is no video evidence of the latter. The fleeing man is positively not shown carrying a rifle or towel, and why would he leave the incriminatating evidence to be easily found or even more ludicrously wrap it in a towel before making his mistake? Equally the story that a screwdriver left as the scene proves he somehow dismantled the weapon and re-assembles it in the wood before abandoning it, is so ridiculous as to be laughable. Given the video footage of the alleged shooter's escape from the roof, the whole story appears to me to be quite preposterous.

As far as I am aware, no evidence has been made publicly linking the fatal bullet, if it has been recovered, with the rifle. Are we even sure there was a line of sight from the alleged firing position to Kirks sunken location, set well back under the awning? Has no one checked out this important detail? Is it not possible, as many have suggested, that the shot came from a quite different direction from the one alleged; that the person videoed entering and leaving the roof is a mere patsy to take attention away from the real shooter; and indeed that the man charged is neither the man filmed or responsible for Kirk's death?

If the person filmed escaping from the building was not carrying a rifle, he could not have carried it to where it was found.  Ergo either that was not the weapon used to kill Kirk or the man videoed escaping from the roof could not have been the killer!



EXERPTS AND PHOTO IMAGES

15.9.2025:  John Field
🇮🇱 EVERY ISRAELI connection to Charlie Kirk’s ASSASSINATION (updated):
THE LEAD UP:
> Groomed by Israel as teenager
> Was Israel’s top non-Jewish loyalist
> Starts *mildly* criticizing Israel
> Said Epstein was Mossad
> Said Oct 7 was an inside job
> Said Jews were behind open borders and neoliberalism
> Said NO to Iran war on behalf of Israel
> Lobbied Trump against Iran War
> Trump ‘barked’ back at him over Iran
> He said Israel had full control of Trump
> He referred to Netanyahu as a “bully”
> He feared ‘Israel would kill him’
> Told Megyn Kelly Israel trying to control him
> Harrison Smith posts about Kirk’s fear
> Netanyahu requests Charlie visit Israel
> Netanyahu offers TPUSA huge funding
> Charlie refuses
> He became “disgusted” with Netanyahu
> He let anti-Zionists speak at his events
> Zionist media starts attacking him
> Zionist donors threaten to defund TPUSA
> Zionists say Charlie should be replaced
> Zionist donors demand Kirk ban Tucker
> Donors cut him off & launch attacks
> Loomer says Kirk backstabbed Trump
> Loomer declares Kirk is done.
> Zio FBI Director fires chief of Utah FBI
> FBI fails to find killer. Is turned in.
> He has ‘anti-Israel’ interview w/ Shapiro 48 hours before being shot
> Shapiro attacks Kirk on Mark Levin
> He has ‘combative’ meeting w/ Israeli Rabbi day before being shot
THE ASSASSINATION:
> Before 9/10, unusual people visited 'shooter'
> The visitors had out of state license plates
> The visitors 'did not give off a good vibe'
> Charlie shot in jugular from 200yd away
> video shows Charlie’s security making hand signals right before the shot
> Video shows a man making a shooting action at the exact moment of the shot
> Unidentified man runs in crowd with pistol
> Police arrest patsy claiming to be shooter
> Patsy yells “shoot me!” during arrest
> 9/11 propaganda video surfaces of patsy
> Actual shooter flees without a trace
> Netanyahu tweets within minutes, before Trump
> Israeli media 1st to confirm Charlie’s death
> Private jet takes off 12 minutes away
> Private jet disables location monitoring
> Jet is owned by Chabad Lubavitch donor
> FBI says “foreign intel” assisting investigation
> FBI claims shooter wore tactical gear
> Assembled gun found in ‘wooded area’
> No photos exist of shooter with the gun or tactical gear
THE AFTERMATH:
> Zionists and Netanyahu go on social media blitz about Kirk
> Netanyahu says Islamist behind shooting
> Netanyahu says Israel didn’t kill Kirk
> Netanyahu reads Kirk’s ‘pro-Israel letter’
> Candace says the letter was faked
> Candace calls on Netanyahu to publish letter
> Tucker says Charlie was at war with Israel
> Cernovich says Kirk was at war with donors
> Grayzone drops article with Trump insider
> Insider confirms Kirk’s war with Israel
> Insider confirms Trump fearful of Israel
> Insider confirms Mossad spying on Trump
> Trump insiders don’t buy official FBI story
> Trump insiders say ‘outside forces’ killed Kirk
> Epstein files blocked immediately after death
> Pentagon banned from boycotting Israel
> Rubio pushing to revoke passports of Israel critics
>Rubio visits Israel
> $650M+ approved for Israel’s missile defence
> Ben Shapiro takes over speaking duties “bloody mic” assassination:
🚨🇺🇸🇮🇱 BREAKING: A PRIVATE JET DISABLED it's location monitoring system while departing from Provo Airport (12 minutes from Utah Valley University) one hour after CHARLIE KIRK was ASSASSINATED
The jet is owned by Derek Maxfield, a wealthy donor to the Chabad Lubavitch of Utah

Following from: https://mail.aol.com/d/list/referrer=newMail&folders=1&accountIds=1&listFilter=NEWMAIL/messages/AM75v2PXi88FnY3VPz9jLLdrgR4 " As CNN reported, “President Donald Trump, who floated crack downs on on leftists and liberal organizations he baselessly blamed for political violence, topped it off Friday morning by suggesting conservative extremists have been radlicalized for legitimate reasons, while saying “radicals on the left are the problem.” The speed of the blame games before the facts was inflammatory and disturbing.

Utah’s Republican governor, Spence Cox, tried to calm the waters and project a different message, decrying the campaign to “point the finger at the other side,” a charge that would certainly describe the President of the United States."



Netanyahu tweeted about Charlie Kirk’s death before the news and before Trump even knew: “
Netanyahu's tweet mourning Kirk as a "lion-hearted friend of Israel" and expressing condolences was posted shortly after the news broke—sources describe it as occurring "mere minutes" after the initial reports and specifically "20 minutes before any American news outlet or even former President Donald Trump confirmed the tragedy."
Think about that.

14.9.2025: TTV. In both America and Europe we are witnessing something very similar to the 1930's namely a widening and coarsening of the political dialogue encapsulated in the famous phrase written in 1919 by William Butler Yeats, "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world". Its context seems particularly prescient to to current events. The question is to what extent this is a natural outpouring of feeling caused by social events or is the result of political incompetence or even intentionally linked to national decline and post 9/11 planning ? International v iolence by states inevitably results in domestic upheaval. The policies of successive governments have caused devastation abroad and mass movement of populations has followed in its wake. We see the violence continued by Israel and America, incredibly supported by Britain (but not its people) It has also led to an influx of Muslems and a belief by many that our historic culture is being diluted and even subsumed - the so called 'two tier policing'. These are the two principal reasons for the unprecedented public protests. They may have different war cries but a common denominator is the estrangement between the rulers and ruled. The democratic system itself has failed to reflect public opinion and that is a danger for everyone, as it threatens chaos and civil unrest. Cover-up and lies on numerous fronts have undermined trust in government. Starmer promised ETHICAL government but his policy towards Gaza has disproved it, nor has he been honest about Ukraine. Recent resignations have reinforced the perception of the centre adrift. As to the tragic death of Charlie Kirk and the multiple deaths of German candidates, these events should act as a warning. The nefarious covert forces at work for whom created chaos may be an objective, are alive and active and dangerous.



Associated Press report:  https://www.kget.com/news/politics/ap-a-college-campus-a-fiery-speaker-and-then-a-single-gunshot/

OREM, Utah (AP) — Just weeks into the fall semester, a crowd gathered around a white canopy on a grassy college courtyard. They were eager to hear what the speaker beneath it had to say. It was a typical university scene, with its promise of the exchange of ideas and debate, except in one way: its size.

This speaker was Charlie Kirk, one of the most influential voices in President Donald Trump’s “Make America Great Again” movement, and the event Wednesday at Utah Valley University drew more than 3,000 people. Backpack-toting students watched from surrounding buildings as Kirk, wearing a white T-shirt that said “Freedom,” tossed red MAGA caps, Frisbee-style, to his fans.

He took his place beneath the canopy, the slogans “The American Comeback” and “Prove Me Wrong” emblazoned across it. He picked up a handheld microphone and he began to address the audience.

As he answered a question about gun violence, a single shot cracked.

Campuses were Kirk’s frequent stops

Kirk, 31, a podcaster, founded the conservative youth organization Turning Point USA. He embraced notions of Christian nationalism and often made provocative statements about gender, race, religion and politics. He had insisted that it was worth it to have “some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.”

Often he brought those ideas onto college campuses, where they were especially controversial. Kirk was known for openly debating progressives and challenging audiences to stump him on political points.

His campus appearances often drew protests, and Wednesday’s was no different. Online petitions signed by thousands of people had called for his talk at Utah Valley University, as well as another, scheduled for Sept. 30 at Utah State University, to be canceled.

“As students at Utah Valley University, we have come to cherish an environment that strives for inclusivity and diversity,” one said. “Yet, the planned speaking engagement of Charlie Kirk threatens this ideal. Kirk’s presence and the messages he delivers stand in contrast to the values of understanding, acceptance, and progress that many of us hold dear.”

The university responded by affirming its “commitment to free speech, intellectual inquiry, and constructive dialogue.”

No metal detectors or bag checks

As was typical for Kirk’s events, security was light. There were six university police officers assigned to the event, plus some private security. There were no metal detectors or bag checks, students told The Associated Press. Some attendees said no one even checked their tickets.

As Kirk arrived, cheers rose. The crowd packed a terraced courtyard, and students, including some protesters, watched from nearby buildings or overlooks.

“Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?” an audience member asked.

Kirk responded, “Too many.”

The questioner followed up: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”

“Counting or not counting gang violence?” Kirk asked.

Those were his last words before the bullet struck him. The shot came from a figure in dark clothing on a distant roof on campus, authorities said.

Blood gushed from Kirk’s neck. He held the microphone a moment, then slumped over.

Madison Lattin, 21, was a few dozen feet to Kirk’s left when the shot echoed over. Lattin, who’d long looked up to Kirk, watched his body jerk and saw the blood.

And it clicked in her head: “That was a gunshot. Now what?”

Shock, followed by chaos and escape

“No! Charlie!” screamed an audience member.

“Go! Run! Go!” yelled another.

The crowd fled the plaza in multiple directions, some slipping and falling or leaping over benches as they did.

Cari Bartholomew, state director of Utah Moms for America, said she had taken her 17-year-old son out of school so he could attend Kirk’s event. They were joined by other women from the group and their kids. Bartholomew’s son was in line waiting to ask a question when Kirk was shot. Chaos ensued and she couldn’t find him as people ducked for cover and started running. She later learned her son was unharmed.

“All of us, we were trying to grab the little kids and getting them as near to us as possible,” she said.

Ryan DeVries, a 25 year-old who works in property management and volunteers as a first responder, said he was surprised by the lack of a security presence at the event; he left his firearm in his car as he anticipated having to walk through metal detectors.

He was weaving his way through the tightly packed crowd to pose a question to Kirk when he heard what sounded similar to a “popping” firework. Glancing at the stage after the shot was fired, DeVries saw Kirk’s head slumped.

A stampede rife with terror and panic soon erupted, said DeVries. Some attendees darted to a nearby building and ran through a water fountain to escape, he said. Others ducked and hid.

“People definitely feared for their lives. I could see it in their eyes. I could hear it in their voices. People were crying. People were screaming,” DeVries said.

After the panic subsided, Erynn Lammi, a 35-year old student who heard the gunshot, saw AirPods, phones, keys and trash strewn across the courtyard. When she returned home, she said, she cried her eyes out, feeling for Kirk’s wife and children as she was reminded of the loss of her own father when she was 13.

“Powerlessness,” Lammi said.


WIKIPEDIA has this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Charlie_Kirk

Killing and campus response

Richard D. & Joann B. Losee Center in 2005. The shot was fired from the rooftop.

Officials stated the suspected gunman "arrived on campus in a gray Dodge Challenger" at 8:29 a.m. MDT (UTC–6).[22] Security camera footage examined by investigators showed he was dressed differently than later around the time of the shooting.[22]

Aerial view of the crime area: Kirk was located under a tent at the bottom of the grassy amphitheatre on the left; the shooter is believed to have shot Kirk from the roof of the building at the top right.

Investigators stated the suspect appeared again in video starting at around 11:50 a.m., when he moved through a grassy area into a parking lot near campus. Video posted by TMZ on Twitter appears to show the suspect in the area described by the investigators.[22] At 11:53 a.m. he stopped at the top of some stairs and "pulled out his phone" before proceeding into a pedestrian tunnel.[22] Still images put out by the FBI show him going up a stairwell in a parking garage next to the tunnel.[22] The speaking event began at 12 noon.[23] Authorities said he was seen at 12:02 p.m. walking on the north side of the Losee Center, where they said he would later shoot Kirk from the roof.[22] According to an affidavit, the suspect entered the Losee Center from the southeast side, and 13 minutes later was seen ascending stairs next to the building.[22] Investigators said that by 12:22 p.m., he was on the roof lying on his stomach facing the location where Kirk was speaking.[22] At 12:23 p.m., Kirk was shot in the neck while speaking at the event.[23][24]

Sitting under a tent emblazoned with the tour title and the slogan "Prove Me Wrong", Kirk was answering a question regarding the number of mass shootings committed by transgender people.[25][26][19] The final exchange between Kirk and an audience member was:

Audience member: Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?
Kirk: Too many.
Audience member: Okay, well—[crowd cheers]—it's five, okay. Now, five is a lot, right? I'll give you some credit. Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?
Kirk: Counting or not counting gang violence?
Audience member: Great—[27][18]

A single shot was fired during the exchange, which hit Kirk in the neck.[28][18] According to the university, the shot came from the roof of the Losee Center, itself 200 yards (180 m) away;[29][30] following the discovery of the shooter's position during the subsequent investigation, this was later revised to 142 yards (130 m).[31] Emma Pitts, a Deseret News reporter who witnessed the event, told National Public Radio, "I just saw so much blood come out of the left side of Charlie's neck, and then he went limp."[26]

Former U.S. representative Jason Chaffetz, who was in attendance, stated, "As soon as the shot went out, everybody hit the deck and everybody started scattering and yelling and screaming."[18] Another witness told The New York Times that "no one really got down until the people in front of the stage did" and that "people got down in waves".[32] An eyewitness reported to CBS News that there was "blood pouring everywhere".[33]

Video footage also surfaced of the suspected shooter running from the south corner of the Losee Center roof, where he purportedly shot Kirk, to the north corner, where the ground was higher and he could hang from the edge of the roof and drop to the ground, which occurred at about 12:24 p.m.[23] Palm prints were later found at the edge of the roof, as well as smudges from which samples were collected to look for DNA, and a footprint was found on the ground, which showed he was wearing Converse tennis shoes. He then moved into a wooded area north of the campus, where the gun was later found.[23][34]

According to police audio, the first report of the shooting occurred at 12:26 p.m. At 12:31 p.m., an officer then reported "gunshots heard near the library". At 12:35 p.m., the officer added "maybe the CS building", before describing the shooter as "wearing jeans, black shirt, black mask, long rifle". A minute later, the officer elaborated "on top of the building on the far north side, just east of the library".[35] After Kirk was shot, he was quickly carried by six men to an SUV, which transported him to Timpanogos Regional Hospital in Orem;[36] Kirk was later pronounced dead at the hospital[18][37] after undergoing emergency surgery.[38][39] His death was announced by Donald Trump at 2:40 p.m. on Truth Social.[40][41]



'A bolt action rifle recoved (sic) near the scene where Charlie Kirk was fatally shot. Obtained by the NY Post'  Source: https://www.aol.com/news/tyler-robinson-may-revealed-details-233531059.html :   Lying in cardboard box with no sign of the stated 'towel' in which it was found wrapped.





Reddit here claims this was the rifle used in the shooting! Note differnces. https://www.reddit.com/r/WAGuns/comments/1nffs3e/the_rifle_used_by_charlie_kirks_assassin_tyler/


Video purporting to show Robinson entering building. Note red sleeveless shirt no rifle. Also appears to be wearing shorts.



Now wearing black long sleeve shirt with distinctive American flag motif on chest. Still absolutely no evidence of a rifle. The suggestion by police  it is hidden in his jeans is risible.




The face in this image can be compared to that of Robinson's (below) to which there is a definite likeness.







My only observation would be that Robinson's right ear in the the above 'mug shot' looks much longer than in this one. The out-line of an i-phone can be clearly seen in his right pocket. Apparently he was filmed talking on it yet no information has been released about it or to whom he was speaking.





























"Blood appeared on the left side of his neck and he fell to the left."




The rifle located here?


Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah.  How did the shooter get a clear shot on target from its alleged location?





Shot came from the top of this building allegedly.











Immediately following single shot, panic ensues. People running from right to left. Note lots of people on first floor balconies. Where did the shot come from?












Father (who turned him in) and son.




"Taken into custody in 33 hours. That's extremely fast."













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