Ukraine. The MH17 Crime Still Hanging in the Air
(Update of earlier article)
The jewish and financial links between Ukrainian and Western politics cannot be ignored. Nor the divergent way in which the events in the east of the country are portrayed by Russia and the West.
There is little doubt that in common with other countries in the Middle East, a natural desire for 'freedom' and dissatisfaction with existing circumstances, has been fomented by agencies of the West (principally by America but supported by Britain) and Israel to create chaos and social unrest, that by extension has included Europe itself.
The jewish and financial links between Ukrainian and Western politics cannot be ignored. Nor the divergent way in which the events in the east of the country are portrayed by Russia and the West.
There is little doubt that in common with other countries in the Middle East, a natural desire for 'freedom' and dissatisfaction with existing circumstances, has been fomented by agencies of the West (principally by America but supported by Britain) and Israel to create chaos and social unrest, that by extension has included Europe itself.
There is little doubt that in common with other countries in the Middle East, a natural desire for 'freedom' and dissatisfaction with existing circumstances, has been fomented by agencies of the West (principally by America but supported by Britain) and Israel to create chaos and social unrest, that by extension has included Europe itself.
The downing of MH17 in 2014 was just such an event, steeped in deceit and misinformation, coming it must be said, from the Western side. We have had a spate of civil aircraft crashes under terrorist or otherwise suspicious circumstances in recent years. The way secrecy embraced the investigation of MH17 inspires no confidence in the reliability of others, or the ability to reveal true causes and perpetrators.
Western leaders cannot bring themselves to admit the downing of this plane was not the responsibility of either Russia or its supporters in the East. To do so would be tantamount to admitting culpability for a dastardly act and throwing doubt on a whole range of interpretations of current threats and incidents, including most recently, Paris and Brussels, which even the supine must view as highly questionable. No wonder the official investigation before it even started was wrapped in a four-nation pact of secrecy.
Increasingly we are seeing Israel engage not only in repressive, brutal and discriminatory action in its own sphere of illegally occupied territory, but also increasingly taking covert and overt involvement outside it. The links either 'coincidental' or admitted to 9/11, 7/7 and Paris are all documented, as are others, yet for reasons hard to explain, it would appear there is a stranglehold of revealing them in the Western public domain.
This fact alone confirms the corruption that must pervade Western governments, if egregious crimes cannot, for some extraneous reason, be accurately credited and pursued. Indeed as we all know, the British Prime Minister has publicly taken the position of threatening those seeking to reveal the truth, whilst refusing to condemn the outrageous bombing of Gaza in 2014, that started within minutes of the MH17 plane coming down.
The implications are clear: there was collusion between whoever ordered, organised and carried out the MH17 operation and those that ordered, organised and carried out the Gaza one. Neither could have been done without lengthy planning for sure. When the British Prime Minister can misrepresent the one and defend the other, we know Britain too is implicated in evil acts. The criminal law has a term for it: "Joint Enterprise".
On multiple levels, including the public admissions by Mossad agents, Israel and Jewish interests have been clearly shown to at least have had foreknowledge and facilitated the attacks in New York on 9/11 that presaged the unquantifiable violence and suffering of the next fifteen years. Once that fact is clearly established in the public mind, it is impossible not to reinterpret all the disastrous events that have followed it or to reassign where the actual threat to a democratic way of life actually comes from?
What Israel unconscionably did to Gaza, it has helped Saudi Arabia do to the Yemen, bombing civilian areas, hospitals and schools without a word of censure from the West, rather 'conveniently' yet again obsessing over civil disasters and 'terrorist events'. The Israeli/Western links to and support of so-called ISIS have also been well documented.
Can't you see a pattern here? Nothing is as it is presented in the press sadly. Russia's involvement in Syria proved that and particularly as regards to Turkey's active support of ISIS by buying its oil and shooting down Russian aircraft in the process of effectively striking at it.
The latest involvement I have come across is the use of Israeli-made 'suicide drones' in the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan.
https://easternmediterraneanagency.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/armenia-azerbaijan-karabakh.gif
Given Israel's attitude to Iran including threats of unilateral military action against it to compliment the many targeted killings and other sabotage it has carried out there, it is not difficult to see how drone activity in the region of Nagorno-Karabakh could be of strategic importance. Is that what fires the arms exports and cooperation to the area?
In what can only be described as a disingenuous remark by Meretz chairwoman Zehava Galon, to the Israeli Defence Minister, she said, “As you know, Armenia and Azerbaijan are both friendly to Israel, and it is inconceivable that Israeli weapons be used in a war between the two countries over the Nagorno-Karabakh region. It is Israel’s obligation to ensure that weapons it manufactures do not contribute to igniting the land which is burning anyway, and not to take part in attacks by either side,” Galon stressed to Ya’alon.
See: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.713935
To which I would respond, "What other purpose might be expected of 'suicide drones' but to be used that way?
Incidentally the same article reports an Armenian Defense Ministry spokesman claiming that, "one of the drones targeted a bus killing seven “Armenian volunteers” en route to the battlefield." Or of course they may have just been bus passenger off to work? We don't really know.
We do know that the Ukrainian civil disorder leading to the downfall of the democratically elected and Russian-backed former President, was a largely CIA orchestrated operation, involving marksmen to shoot people that could be blamed on the existing government and cause public outrage.
Despite not being in the EU or a part of NATO, and traditionally held to be within the orbit of the Soviet empire, the American/Western intention has been to incorporate it in both, although the recent Dutch vote, BREXIT and Panama have put a bit of a damper on it for the moment.
However this hasn't prevented the West from continuing and entrenching its plans in which those with a Jewish heritage appear to have taken a leading role in consort with western Jewish controlled financial institutions. Can all this web of intrigue and connection be accidental, or is it part of some grand plan of American/Israeli domination of world affairs?
At a recent high-level 'Security in the Black Sea Region' conference held in Odessa on March 24th 2016, US Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt had this to say:
The downing of MH17 in 2014 was just such an event, steeped in deceit and misinformation, coming it must be said, from the Western side. We have had a spate of civil aircraft crashes under terrorist or otherwise suspicious circumstances in recent years. The way secrecy embraced the investigation of MH17 inspires no confidence in the reliability of others, or the ability to reveal true causes and perpetrators.
Western leaders cannot bring themselves to admit the downing of this plane was not the responsibility of either Russia or its supporters in the East. To do so would be tantamount to admitting culpability for a dastardly act and throwing doubt on a whole range of interpretations of current threats and incidents, including most recently, Paris and Brussels, which even the supine must view as highly questionable. No wonder the official investigation before it even started was wrapped in a four-nation pact of secrecy.
Increasingly we are seeing Israel engage not only in repressive, brutal and discriminatory action in its own sphere of illegally occupied territory, but also increasingly taking covert and overt involvement outside it. The links either 'coincidental' or admitted to 9/11, 7/7 and Paris are all documented, as are others, yet for reasons hard to explain, it would appear there is a stranglehold of revealing them in the Western public domain.
This fact alone confirms the corruption that must pervade Western governments, if egregious crimes cannot, for some extraneous reason, be accurately credited and pursued. Indeed as we all know, the British Prime Minister has publicly taken the position of threatening those seeking to reveal the truth, whilst refusing to condemn the outrageous bombing of Gaza in 2014, that started within minutes of the MH17 plane coming down.
The implications are clear: there was collusion between whoever ordered, organised and carried out the MH17 operation and those that ordered, organised and carried out the Gaza one. Neither could have been done without lengthy planning for sure. When the British Prime Minister can misrepresent the one and defend the other, we know Britain too is implicated in evil acts. The criminal law has a term for it: "Joint Enterprise".
On multiple levels, including the public admissions by Mossad agents, Israel and Jewish interests have been clearly shown to at least have had foreknowledge and facilitated the attacks in New York on 9/11 that presaged the unquantifiable violence and suffering of the next fifteen years. Once that fact is clearly established in the public mind, it is impossible not to reinterpret all the disastrous events that have followed it or to reassign where the actual threat to a democratic way of life actually comes from?
What Israel unconscionably did to Gaza, it has helped Saudi Arabia do to the Yemen, bombing civilian areas, hospitals and schools without a word of censure from the West, rather 'conveniently' yet again obsessing over civil disasters and 'terrorist events'. The Israeli/Western links to and support of so-called ISIS have also been well documented.
Can't you see a pattern here? Nothing is as it is presented in the press sadly. Russia's involvement in Syria proved that and particularly as regards to Turkey's active support of ISIS by buying its oil and shooting down Russian aircraft in the process of effectively striking at it.
The latest involvement I have come across is the use of Israeli-made 'suicide drones' in the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan.
https://easternmediterraneanagency.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/armenia-azerbaijan-karabakh.gif
Given Israel's attitude to Iran including threats of unilateral military action against it to compliment the many targeted killings and other sabotage it has carried out there, it is not difficult to see how drone activity in the region of Nagorno-Karabakh could be of strategic importance. Is that what fires the arms exports and cooperation to the area?
In what can only be described as a disingenuous remark by Meretz chairwoman Zehava Galon, to the Israeli Defence Minister, she said, “As you know, Armenia and Azerbaijan are both friendly to Israel, and it is inconceivable that Israeli weapons be used in a war between the two countries over the Nagorno-Karabakh region. It is Israel’s obligation to ensure that weapons it manufactures do not contribute to igniting the land which is burning anyway, and not to take part in attacks by either side,” Galon stressed to Ya’alon.
See: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.713935
To which I would respond, "What other purpose might be expected of 'suicide drones' but to be used that way?
Incidentally the same article reports an Armenian Defense Ministry spokesman claiming that, "one of the drones targeted a bus killing seven “Armenian volunteers” en route to the battlefield." Or of course they may have just been bus passenger off to work? We don't really know.
We do know that the Ukrainian civil disorder leading to the downfall of the democratically elected and Russian-backed former President, was a largely CIA orchestrated operation, involving marksmen to shoot people that could be blamed on the existing government and cause public outrage.
Despite not being in the EU or a part of NATO, and traditionally held to be within the orbit of the Soviet empire, the American/Western intention has been to incorporate it in both, although the recent Dutch vote, BREXIT and Panama have put a bit of a damper on it for the moment.
However this hasn't prevented the West from continuing and entrenching its plans in which those with a Jewish heritage appear to have taken a leading role in consort with western Jewish controlled financial institutions. Can all this web of intrigue and connection be accidental, or is it part of some grand plan of American/Israeli domination of world affairs?
But Ukraine’s best response to Russian aggression is to continue firmly on its European trajectory, to continue to implement real reforms that fundamentally and irreversibly destroy the corrupt practices of the past."
If that happens, I’m confident that you will see American companies bringing their resources, technology, and capital to the Ukrainian market, leveraging Ukraine’s strategic geography and maritime access to Asia, Africa and of course Europe."
See: http://ukraine.usembassy.gov/statements/pyatt-odesa-03242016.html
All so reasonable, rational and above board. But then, 'what fraudster dresses as a thief?'
Wikipedia has this summary on Geoffrey Pyatt - a fine upstanding fellow:
Assistant Secretary Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt greet Ukrainian President-elect Petro Poroshenko before he met with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry in Warsaw, Poland, on June 4, 201
"On October 15, 2013 Pyatt attended an international conference on fighting anti-Semitism in Kiev, but could not address the audience at the event due to the United States federal government shutdown of 2013.[4] Pyatt became part of a diplomatic scandal in January 2014, when his conversation with the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs at the United States Department of State, Victoria Nuland, was apparently intercepted and uploaded to YouTube.[5] Pyatt supported the 2014 Ukrainian revolution against Ukraine's President Victor Yanukovych.[5][6] Pyatt characterised pro-Russian separatist rebels in Donetsk and Luhansk as "terrorists".[7]"
Meanwhile President Poroshenko himself came under scrutiny this week after leaked documents suggested he had set up an offshore company as a tax haven. (Yes they are all doing it!) using Panamanian legal firm Mossack Fonseca. In other news it is reported that Poroshenko is to transfer his share in Roshen to Rothschild under trust agreement. 'Trust' is obviously what this is all about.
Groysman was a former mayor of Poroshenko’s home city, Vinnytsia. It is said he is free of the taint of corruption and is seen as an effective manager, who may be able to put together enough parliamentary support to pass legislation. Yet it is said he is very much a member of the political establishment, and a Poroshenko man. The question remains whether he would be able to deliver on promised reforms and anti-corruption measures according to an essentially Western banking and armament agenda? And what is his attitude to and connections with, Israel - if any?
Tim Veater says:
Discussion from the Huffington Post
Perhaps more interesting is who replaces him?
Parliamentary Speaker Volodymyr Groysman has been nominated by Mr Poroshenko's party to replace Mr Yatsenyuk. Groysman (38) is Jewish by birth and religion. The BBC reports that "support is growing for him" which is immediately worrying, given their highly nuanced reporting of Ukraine to date. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36020548)
Groysman was a former mayor of Poroshenko’s home city, Vinnytsia. It is said he is free of the taint of corruption and is seen as an effective manager, who may be able to put together enough parliamentary support to pass legislation. Yet it is said he is very much a member of the political establishment, and a Poroshenko man. The question remains whether he would be able to deliver on promised reforms and anti-corruption measures according to an essentially Western banking and armament agenda? And what is his attitude to and connections with, Israel - if any?
See also:
See also:
http://veaterecosan.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/are-mh17-and-mh370-one-and-same.html
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/04/11/yats-is-no-longer-the-guy/
Re: FLIGHT MH17 CRASHES. ISRAEL STARTS GROUND INVASION OF GAZA. COINCIDENCE OF COURSE. (Updated and amended 12.4.2016) – Tim Veater
> (Up-dated and amended 19.7.2014)
>
> FLIGHT MH17 BROUGHT DOWN OVER UKRAINE
>
> A Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777, flight MH17, was shot down as it flew over the
village of Grabovo, in eastern Ukraine at approximately 4.15pm BST. Data from
Flightradar24 suggests the plane had just passed the city of Kremenchuk when it
disappeared. It was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, was travelling at an
altitude of 10km (6.2 miles) with 295 people on board when it suffered a
catastrophic event which made it crash to the ground leaving debris and bodies
over an area of “up to ten miles”. Western sources suggest it was shot down, by
a Russian-made S11 “Buk” ground-to-air missile? Whether this is true, or if so
who fired it, has yet to be determined. An alternative report suggests that the
plane was in fact escorted by Ukrainian fighter planes that fired the missile.
>
> Almost immediately Ukrainian Interior Ministry advisor Anton Gerashchenko
stated that the aircraft was shot down at an altitude of 10,000 m (33,000 ft) by
a Buk surface-to-air missile. American intelligence officials said the plane was
shot down by a missile of indeterminate origin. Ukrainian President Petro
Poroshenko called it an “act of terrorism.”
>
> I always have distinct qualms when government spokesmen, of whatever
persuasion come out with confident assertions as to cause and responsibility
before any independent assessment has been made or eye witness reports received.
It always has a distinct whiff of dark forces about it as we have previously
seen on occasions too numerous to mention.
>
> “In response, pro-Russian separatist rebels accused the Ukrainian government
of shooting down the plane. Ukrainian security services claimed to have
intercepted two phone conversations in which pro-Russian separatists discuss
having just shot down a civilian plane with alleged Russian intelligence
officers.” (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17)
Intercepted mobile phone calls also have a notable and notorious track record in
secret ops.
>
> We need not remind ourselves that this comes only a matter of months since an
almost identical plane, owned by the same company, went missing and has yet to
be found, in somewhat analogous suspicious circumstance, described by one expert
with typical understatement as “highly unusual”.
>
> MEANWHILE A THOUSAND MILES TO THE SOUTH….
>
> Meanwhile, about a thousand miles to the south and in the same time zone,
within hours of the plane crash Israel instituted its long-planned-for invasion
of the Gazza strip with tanks, ground troops, preceded by aerial bombardment,
resulting in yet more civilian deaths and injuries. Given the fact that no such
operation can take place without both long-term planning and covert diplomatic
signals of support from the United States, the timing is extraordinarily
suspicious to say the least.
>
> It follows on from the incredibly fortuitous propaganda event, seized with
relish by Benjamin Netanyahu, of three Jewish men abducted and murdered, for
which Hamas was blamed but denied responsibility. This resulted in a brutal
“security operation” involving the invasion of Palestinian domestic property and
the forcible arrest and mistreatment of hundreds of young men. There is little
doubt that the event was a false flag, using probably arms length (ISIS?) thugs
to provide propaganda and excuse for its intended action.
>
> The fact that Netanyahu knew the men were already dead and the police had
failed to respond when they had the chance to respond to a mobile phone plea for
help, when he made his highly charged and inflammatory speech, rather confirms
the suspicion. (See: http://www.stopwar.org.uk/news/did-netanyahu-s-government-know-the-three-kidnapped-israelis-were-dead-as-it-whipped-up-racist-frenzy#.U8lHkfldU6M
>
> The timing of both of these planned military events, on the back of, or
obscured by, shocking events gaining and deflecting international attention,
cannot be co-incidental and yet again points an impelling accusatory finger in
the direction of Israeli/American covert action via the Mossad/CIA axis.
> THE BIAS OF WESTERN POLICY AND MSM
>
> Following the revelations of the true perpetrators of the 9/11 outrages, this
should come as no surprise as to the depths of perfidy to which they are
prepared to sink in furthering their short and long-term geo-political aims. It
is a context that should be fully borne in mind by the majority of the world’s
population when assessing what purports to be the western mainstream media (MSM)
of the conflict in both the Middle East (particularly Gazza at the moment) and
Ukraine, where the over-riding themes have been “Israel protecting itself from
terrorist Palestinians” and “freedom loving Ukrainians protecting themselves
from Russian backed terrorist separatists”, both of which are plainly partial
and biased.
>
> They are but one side of an Oxford Union debate. We are hearing the
prosecution case without the defence. Even whilst demanding an independent
investigation, western leaders, principally American and British, (not
forgetting the walk-on supporting act by the Australian Premier) infer the
Russians and Palestinians are to blame.
>
> How convenient is that? It parallels the approach to whistle blowers and
victims of sexual assault being prosecuted and gaoled, whilst the perpetrators
and criminals are protected and rewarded. It is the well-known psychological
phenomenon of “victim blaming”.
>
> The one-sided nature of the Israeli conflict is well known. The whole history
of the west-supported Israeli state replicates a long-standing European approach
to settlement in new territories and the systematic eradication and/or
domination of the resident population and culture. We (Europeans) did it in
North and South America, Africa and Austro-Asia to greater or lesser extent. The
Zionists, with western support, are continuing to do the same to the
Palestinians wherever they find them, and particularly if they show any signs of
independence or resistance to the occupying army.
>
> What we the British extolled in the Second World War, we denigrate in the
Palestinian effort to defend themselves, even if we might consider it tactically
inept. The cards have been stacked; the weights have been interfered with; the
ingredients adulterated; the projection skewed; the computer program corrupted.
>
> GROUND TO AIR MISSILES
>
> So getting back to the truly outrageous event of the crash of MH 17, the jury
is still very much out on who caused it, how and why, but let us consider some
of the factors that might point the way, even at this early stage.
>
> First the plane was flying at over six miles above the earth which would
require sophisticated missile technology not currently in the hands of the
rebels as far as we are aware, unless supplied by one side or the other. NATO
refers to the system as the SA-11 GADFLY and the advanced model as the SA-17
GRIZZLY – systems developed by the Soviet Union to succeed the SA-6 GAINFUL.
>
> The west has an array of surface to air systems including “Patriot”, although
the Google search engine appears much more willing to provide information on
Russian assets than NATO ones. I am no expert but of course we should never rule
out the possibility that it was American hardware that brought the plane down.
After all it has been done before! (See: https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1ARAB_enGB463GB464&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=AMERICA+SHOOTING+DOWN+CIVIL+AIRCRAFT&safe=active&tbm=nws)
>
> “Handling lower-tier air defence, systems such as Hawk XXI and National
Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile System (NASAMS) can intercept short-range
ballistic and cruise missiles as well as fixed-wing threats. Its long-range
radars, such as the AN/TPY-2 and AN/SPY-1, provide coverage on land and at sea,
detecting and managing engagement of targets. NATO’s newly inaugurated Air
Command & Control System (ACCS), the alliance’s first totally integrated sensor
and communications network, was brought to fruition as a joint effort by
ThalesRaytheonSystems, and plays a critical and central role in defending
European NATO airspace. Of the Patriot missile system’s 12 global partner
countries, five are NATO nations.” (Source:http://www.raytheon.com/ourcompany/global/europe/iamd/index.html)
>
> Nor should we rule out the possibility that NO ground to air missile was
involved (apropos Lockerbie Pan Am 103) until proved otherwise. As far as I am
aware to date, no one has reported seeing a missile fired nor the subsequent
high level explosion. All we have to date is the almighty fireball, ascending
column of black smoke and debris, which at least is more than we had from the
“vaporising” UA 93 at Stonycreek Township, Pennsylvania. (In this regard
Wikipedia still pedals the now totally discredited official story it was “a
passenger flight which was hijacked by al-Qaeda on September 11, 2001, as part
of the September 11 attacks”. (See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93)
>
> So an on-board device remains a possibility and that opens the “game” of
perpetrators up completely. One thing is clear, the pilot had no warning or was
otherwise prevented from sending out a distress signal, so the “traditional”
hi-jack scenario is made less likely, although suicide bomber is not. More
likely would be a device secreted about the aircraft or in the luggage
compartment planted by some clandestine or terrorist agency.
>
> STRANGE WHITE TRAILS from BLACK SMOKE
>
> One intriguing aspect demonstrated by video footage of the billowing smoke
following the crash, is the distinct trails of white material falling to earth,
that is not easily explained and for which I am not qualified to interpret,
other than observing that they appear remarkably similar to those of a
thermite-nature at the collapse of the twin towers. Surely they could not be
evidence of such?
>
> Of itself it would not prove on-board explosive, as it might be only a
remnant of an intercepting missile I presume, or some other burning constituent
of the smoke after the plane had hit the ground, which must entail the
particulate ascending with it. Others might be able to explain it satisfactorily
but it needs explanation. It can be found 20 to 30 seconds into the video here:
>
> Maybe it’s worth remembering that an aluminium oxide white smoke is produced
from the thermite chemical reaction. (Compare and contrast here:
http://letsrollforums.com/why-world-trade-center-t22334.html?s=4e9075c1e43bad57aa2083191704abf4&
>
> POSSIBLE PERPETRATORS
>
> So if it was brought down by ground to air missile and not on-board explosive,
the options are the Ukrainians or Russians, or alternatively combatant agents of
the United States or Russia using either Russian or Western (American) weapons.
It is possible the timing was coordinated or inspired to distract from wider
US/Israeli military activity.
>
> We know that both East and West have taken advantage of the civil unrest (even
promoted it) to further their geo-political and territorial aims. Indeed we
might almost conclude, despite the brouhaha, that this was a done deal between
Obama and Putin over the telephone regarding their respective fields of
influence – a swap of western Ukraine to NATO and EU in return for Crimea and
the eastern Ukraine to the Russians. A nod to the Chamberlain/Hitler agreement
regarding Czechoslovakia in 1938!
>
> If so we must ask who would gain from shooting down a passenger jet?
>
> The Americans might want another Lusitania/Pearl Harbour event, as they did
with 9/11 to justify military action in Europe; Russia might want similar to
justify military occupation of the east of the country but neither are
convincing. Would they really push the chances of an east/west confrontation,
potentially involving nuclear weapons? Even the most neo-con would hold back
from that I would think.
>
> But how about a third party such as Israel working in concert with either
state or terrorist agents or by utilising its own assets, wishing to stir up
further diversionary violence, disorder and headlines, whilst continuing
unmolested with its own violent intentions? That to me appears far more likely,
particularly in the context of its policy to undermine the powerful backer of
its arch enemies Syria and Iran. So it could serve TWO important objectives:
drive a deeper wedge between the super powers and undermine Russia, increasing
pressure on its northern flank whilst at the same time diverting and
neutralising international attention of its potentially alarming and military
assault on the Gazza, with all its powerful resonances of the Nazi attack on the
Warsaw Ghetto.
>
> Incredibly, we even now have disturbing reports that Israel is actually
employing poison gas on the civilian population in Gazza. If that is not ironic,
nothing is. We will wait to see if there is the same American outrage as
evidenced over Syria – also a largely a contrived lie? (See:
>
> That would seem to me to be a quite viable and logical Israeli strategy
particularly as it has been shown, just like Hitler and his advance to the east,
was motivated by oil and resources, so is Israel’s interest in subduing Gazza.
>
> “Never mind the ‘war on terror’ rhetoric, writes Nafeez Ahmed. The purpose of
Israel’s escalating assault on Gaza is to control the Territory’s 1.4 trillion
cubic feet of gas – and so keep Palestine poor and weak, gain massive export
revenues, and avert its own domestic energy crisis.”
>
> LINKS WITH MH 370 AND THE ISRAELI BOEING 777
>
> One further interesting detail thrown up by the MH 370 incident, still not
explained but filed under “not to be revealed for fifty years”, was that of the
identical ex-Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 that found its way to Tel Aviv
airport but NOT to the State Airline El Al. To date the Israeli government has
issued no explanation of why it was there or for what purpose. Was it just to
enable the the Israeli agencies to get detailed familiarity with a plane and its
components that figured large in its later clandestine plans? (See:
)
>
> At the time there was much debate over the plane and its function and the
possibility it would be used in a terrorist attack that could be blamed on
Muslim extremists. Now “lo and behold” – an appropriately Biblical term – only a
few months later we have an identical plane blowing up or being brought down
over eastern Ukraine, whilst with military precision the Gazza attack starts at
precisely the same time. This is text book strategy, at which we know the
Israeli’s are expert. They took notes from the British, French, Germans,
Americans and Russians, not least but nor exclusively, at Suez in 1956.
>
> The Russians have now challenged the western nations, somewhat along the above
lines, with ten specific questions relating principally to the role of the
Ukrainian military itself. (See:http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1022354/pg1)
It is common knowledge that the Ukraine government and military has been
infiltrated by American intelligence and military, from which it is a small step
to imagine CIA/Mossad involvement in a plot to heighten international tension
and provide cover for military activity elsewhere. In the circumstances it would
be wise to keep and open mind and moderate the temptation to point an accusatory
finger or take sides, until a reliable narrative emerges. We only know that if
“terrorists” are not behind such incidents, governments must be, and that sadly
western ones are no less capable than those projected by western media as its
enemies.
> (Up-dated and amended 19.7.2014)
>
> FLIGHT MH17 BROUGHT DOWN OVER UKRAINE
>
> A Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777, flight MH17, was shot down as it flew over the
village of Grabovo, in eastern Ukraine at approximately 4.15pm BST. Data from
Flightradar24 suggests the plane had just passed the city of Kremenchuk when it
disappeared. It was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, was travelling at an
altitude of 10km (6.2 miles) with 295 people on board when it suffered a
catastrophic event which made it crash to the ground leaving debris and bodies
over an area of “up to ten miles”. Western sources suggest it was shot down, by
a Russian-made S11 “Buk” ground-to-air missile? Whether this is true, or if so
who fired it, has yet to be determined. An alternative report suggests that the
plane was in fact escorted by Ukrainian fighter planes that fired the missile.
>
> Almost immediately Ukrainian Interior Ministry advisor Anton Gerashchenko
stated that the aircraft was shot down at an altitude of 10,000 m (33,000 ft) by
a Buk surface-to-air missile. American intelligence officials said the plane was
shot down by a missile of indeterminate origin. Ukrainian President Petro
Poroshenko called it an “act of terrorism.”
>
> I always have distinct qualms when government spokesmen, of whatever
persuasion come out with confident assertions as to cause and responsibility
before any independent assessment has been made or eye witness reports received.
It always has a distinct whiff of dark forces about it as we have previously
seen on occasions too numerous to mention.
>
> “In response, pro-Russian separatist rebels accused the Ukrainian government
of shooting down the plane. Ukrainian security services claimed to have
intercepted two phone conversations in which pro-Russian separatists discuss
having just shot down a civilian plane with alleged Russian intelligence
officers.” (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17)
Intercepted mobile phone calls also have a notable and notorious track record in
secret ops.
>
> We need not remind ourselves that this comes only a matter of months since an
almost identical plane, owned by the same company, went missing and has yet to
be found, in somewhat analogous suspicious circumstance, described by one expert
with typical understatement as “highly unusual”.
>
> MEANWHILE A THOUSAND MILES TO THE SOUTH….
>
> Meanwhile, about a thousand miles to the south and in the same time zone,
within hours of the plane crash Israel instituted its long-planned-for invasion
of the Gazza strip with tanks, ground troops, preceded by aerial bombardment,
resulting in yet more civilian deaths and injuries. Given the fact that no such
operation can take place without both long-term planning and covert diplomatic
signals of support from the United States, the timing is extraordinarily
suspicious to say the least.
>
> It follows on from the incredibly fortuitous propaganda event, seized with
relish by Benjamin Netanyahu, of three Jewish men abducted and murdered, for
which Hamas was blamed but denied responsibility. This resulted in a brutal
“security operation” involving the invasion of Palestinian domestic property and
the forcible arrest and mistreatment of hundreds of young men. There is little
doubt that the event was a false flag, using probably arms length (ISIS?) thugs
to provide propaganda and excuse for its intended action.
>
> The fact that Netanyahu knew the men were already dead and the police had
failed to respond when they had the chance to respond to a mobile phone plea for
help, when he made his highly charged and inflammatory speech, rather confirms
the suspicion. (See: http://www.stopwar.org.uk/news/did-netanyahu-s-government-know-the-three-kidnapped-israelis-were-dead-as-it-whipped-up-racist-frenzy#.U8lHkfldU6M
>
> The timing of both of these planned military events, on the back of, or
obscured by, shocking events gaining and deflecting international attention,
cannot be co-incidental and yet again points an impelling accusatory finger in
the direction of Israeli/American covert action via the Mossad/CIA axis.
> THE BIAS OF WESTERN POLICY AND MSM
>
> Following the revelations of the true perpetrators of the 9/11 outrages, this
should come as no surprise as to the depths of perfidy to which they are
prepared to sink in furthering their short and long-term geo-political aims. It
is a context that should be fully borne in mind by the majority of the world’s
population when assessing what purports to be the western mainstream media (MSM)
of the conflict in both the Middle East (particularly Gazza at the moment) and
Ukraine, where the over-riding themes have been “Israel protecting itself from
terrorist Palestinians” and “freedom loving Ukrainians protecting themselves
from Russian backed terrorist separatists”, both of which are plainly partial
and biased.
>
> They are but one side of an Oxford Union debate. We are hearing the
prosecution case without the defence. Even whilst demanding an independent
investigation, western leaders, principally American and British, (not
forgetting the walk-on supporting act by the Australian Premier) infer the
Russians and Palestinians are to blame.
>
> How convenient is that? It parallels the approach to whistle blowers and
victims of sexual assault being prosecuted and gaoled, whilst the perpetrators
and criminals are protected and rewarded. It is the well-known psychological
phenomenon of “victim blaming”.
>
> The one-sided nature of the Israeli conflict is well known. The whole history
of the west-supported Israeli state replicates a long-standing European approach
to settlement in new territories and the systematic eradication and/or
domination of the resident population and culture. We (Europeans) did it in
North and South America, Africa and Austro-Asia to greater or lesser extent. The
Zionists, with western support, are continuing to do the same to the
Palestinians wherever they find them, and particularly if they show any signs of
independence or resistance to the occupying army.
>
> What we the British extolled in the Second World War, we denigrate in the
Palestinian effort to defend themselves, even if we might consider it tactically
inept. The cards have been stacked; the weights have been interfered with; the
ingredients adulterated; the projection skewed; the computer program corrupted.
>
> GROUND TO AIR MISSILES
>
> So getting back to the truly outrageous event of the crash of MH 17, the jury
is still very much out on who caused it, how and why, but let us consider some
of the factors that might point the way, even at this early stage.
>
> First the plane was flying at over six miles above the earth which would
require sophisticated missile technology not currently in the hands of the
rebels as far as we are aware, unless supplied by one side or the other. NATO
refers to the system as the SA-11 GADFLY and the advanced model as the SA-17
GRIZZLY – systems developed by the Soviet Union to succeed the SA-6 GAINFUL.
>
> The west has an array of surface to air systems including “Patriot”, although
the Google search engine appears much more willing to provide information on
Russian assets than NATO ones. I am no expert but of course we should never rule
out the possibility that it was American hardware that brought the plane down.
After all it has been done before! (See: https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1ARAB_enGB463GB464&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=AMERICA+SHOOTING+DOWN+CIVIL+AIRCRAFT&safe=active&tbm=nws)
>
> “Handling lower-tier air defence, systems such as Hawk XXI and National
Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile System (NASAMS) can intercept short-range
ballistic and cruise missiles as well as fixed-wing threats. Its long-range
radars, such as the AN/TPY-2 and AN/SPY-1, provide coverage on land and at sea,
detecting and managing engagement of targets. NATO’s newly inaugurated Air
Command & Control System (ACCS), the alliance’s first totally integrated sensor
and communications network, was brought to fruition as a joint effort by
ThalesRaytheonSystems, and plays a critical and central role in defending
European NATO airspace. Of the Patriot missile system’s 12 global partner
countries, five are NATO nations.” (Source:http://www.raytheon.com/ourcompany/global/europe/iamd/index.html)
>
> Nor should we rule out the possibility that NO ground to air missile was
involved (apropos Lockerbie Pan Am 103) until proved otherwise. As far as I am
aware to date, no one has reported seeing a missile fired nor the subsequent
high level explosion. All we have to date is the almighty fireball, ascending
column of black smoke and debris, which at least is more than we had from the
“vaporising” UA 93 at Stonycreek Township, Pennsylvania. (In this regard
Wikipedia still pedals the now totally discredited official story it was “a
passenger flight which was hijacked by al-Qaeda on September 11, 2001, as part
of the September 11 attacks”. (See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93)
>
> So an on-board device remains a possibility and that opens the “game” of
perpetrators up completely. One thing is clear, the pilot had no warning or was
otherwise prevented from sending out a distress signal, so the “traditional”
hi-jack scenario is made less likely, although suicide bomber is not. More
likely would be a device secreted about the aircraft or in the luggage
compartment planted by some clandestine or terrorist agency.
>
> STRANGE WHITE TRAILS from BLACK SMOKE
>
> One intriguing aspect demonstrated by video footage of the billowing smoke
following the crash, is the distinct trails of white material falling to earth,
that is not easily explained and for which I am not qualified to interpret,
other than observing that they appear remarkably similar to those of a
thermite-nature at the collapse of the twin towers. Surely they could not be
evidence of such?
>
> Of itself it would not prove on-board explosive, as it might be only a
remnant of an intercepting missile I presume, or some other burning constituent
of the smoke after the plane had hit the ground, which must entail the
particulate ascending with it. Others might be able to explain it satisfactorily
but it needs explanation. It can be found 20 to 30 seconds into the video here:
>
> Maybe it’s worth remembering that an aluminium oxide white smoke is produced
from the thermite chemical reaction. (Compare and contrast here:
http://letsrollforums.com/why-world-trade-center-t22334.html?s=4e9075c1e43bad57aa2083191704abf4&
>
> POSSIBLE PERPETRATORS
>
> So if it was brought down by ground to air missile and not on-board explosive,
the options are the Ukrainians or Russians, or alternatively combatant agents of
the United States or Russia using either Russian or Western (American) weapons.
It is possible the timing was coordinated or inspired to distract from wider
US/Israeli military activity.
>
> We know that both East and West have taken advantage of the civil unrest (even
promoted it) to further their geo-political and territorial aims. Indeed we
might almost conclude, despite the brouhaha, that this was a done deal between
Obama and Putin over the telephone regarding their respective fields of
influence – a swap of western Ukraine to NATO and EU in return for Crimea and
the eastern Ukraine to the Russians. A nod to the Chamberlain/Hitler agreement
regarding Czechoslovakia in 1938!
>
> If so we must ask who would gain from shooting down a passenger jet?
>
> The Americans might want another Lusitania/Pearl Harbour event, as they did
with 9/11 to justify military action in Europe; Russia might want similar to
justify military occupation of the east of the country but neither are
convincing. Would they really push the chances of an east/west confrontation,
potentially involving nuclear weapons? Even the most neo-con would hold back
from that I would think.
>
> But how about a third party such as Israel working in concert with either
state or terrorist agents or by utilising its own assets, wishing to stir up
further diversionary violence, disorder and headlines, whilst continuing
unmolested with its own violent intentions? That to me appears far more likely,
particularly in the context of its policy to undermine the powerful backer of
its arch enemies Syria and Iran. So it could serve TWO important objectives:
drive a deeper wedge between the super powers and undermine Russia, increasing
pressure on its northern flank whilst at the same time diverting and
neutralising international attention of its potentially alarming and military
assault on the Gazza, with all its powerful resonances of the Nazi attack on the
Warsaw Ghetto.
>
> Incredibly, we even now have disturbing reports that Israel is actually
employing poison gas on the civilian population in Gazza. If that is not ironic,
nothing is. We will wait to see if there is the same American outrage as
evidenced over Syria – also a largely a contrived lie? (See:
>
> That would seem to me to be a quite viable and logical Israeli strategy
particularly as it has been shown, just like Hitler and his advance to the east,
was motivated by oil and resources, so is Israel’s interest in subduing Gazza.
>
> “Never mind the ‘war on terror’ rhetoric, writes Nafeez Ahmed. The purpose of
Israel’s escalating assault on Gaza is to control the Territory’s 1.4 trillion
cubic feet of gas – and so keep Palestine poor and weak, gain massive export
revenues, and avert its own domestic energy crisis.”
>
> LINKS WITH MH 370 AND THE ISRAELI BOEING 777
>
> One further interesting detail thrown up by the MH 370 incident, still not
explained but filed under “not to be revealed for fifty years”, was that of the
identical ex-Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 that found its way to Tel Aviv
airport but NOT to the State Airline El Al. To date the Israeli government has
issued no explanation of why it was there or for what purpose. Was it just to
enable the the Israeli agencies to get detailed familiarity with a plane and its
components that figured large in its later clandestine plans? (See:
)
>
> At the time there was much debate over the plane and its function and the
possibility it would be used in a terrorist attack that could be blamed on
Muslim extremists. Now “lo and behold” – an appropriately Biblical term – only a
few months later we have an identical plane blowing up or being brought down
over eastern Ukraine, whilst with military precision the Gazza attack starts at
precisely the same time. This is text book strategy, at which we know the
Israeli’s are expert. They took notes from the British, French, Germans,
Americans and Russians, not least but nor exclusively, at Suez in 1956.
>
> The Russians have now challenged the western nations, somewhat along the above
lines, with ten specific questions relating principally to the role of the
Ukrainian military itself. (See:http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1022354/pg1)
It is common knowledge that the Ukraine government and military has been
infiltrated by American intelligence and military, from which it is a small step
to imagine CIA/Mossad involvement in a plot to heighten international tension
and provide cover for military activity elsewhere. In the circumstances it would
be wise to keep and open mind and moderate the temptation to point an accusatory
finger or take sides, until a reliable narrative emerges. We only know that if
“terrorists” are not behind such incidents, governments must be, and that sadly
western ones are no less capable than those projected by western media as its
enemies.
One Response to Re: FLIGHT MH17 CRASHES. ISRAEL STARTS GROUND INVASION OF GAZZA. COINCIDENCE OF COURSE. (Up-dated and amended 19.7.2014) – Tim Veater
Tim Veater says:
A highly significant earlier event I knew about but didn’t refer to, is covered excellently here:
http://www.rense.com/general96/MH17.html
“Was MH17 Sabotaged By An Israeli
Security Team At Amsterdam
Schiphol Airport?
By Yoichi Shimatsu
Exclusive to Rense
7-20-14
Security Team At Amsterdam
Schiphol Airport?
By Yoichi Shimatsu
Exclusive to Rense
7-20-14
Quote in full:
“As the only non-European journalist to cover The Hague inquiry into the Amsterdam crash of El Al flight 1862 (October 1992), which destroyed a Biljmeer district apartment complex, I discovered many aspects of the Israeli security set-up at Schipol International Airport and the role of the Mossad intelligence agency in secret operations there, one of Europe’s business transport hubs. This same airport spy network is very likely involved in the recent crash of Malaysian Airlines flight 17 over the Ukraine.
Covering the Biljmeer crash for Japan Playboy, I uncovered the sordid facts of how the official investigation back then was undone by a large network of Israeli intelligence agents who paid hush money to victims’ families, pressured injured firefighters from filing lawsuits over radiation exposure, and suppressed data from the hangar where the wreckage was stored. The crippled El Al cargo jet, leased from UPS, had transported from JFK Airport in New York a secret load of weapons including plutonium, depleted uranium and a bioweapon called mycoplasm in its cargo bay before crashing on an attempt to return to Schipol Airport, in an operation directed by the Israeli intelligence service instead of Dutch flight officials.
Once again, this time in the destruction of MH17, there is an Israeli-connected air crash with political ramifications involving Israeli strategic interests, inside Israel exactly when its military launches an invasion of Gaza and in troubled Ukraine, a supplier of military electronics to the IDF.
Security at Schipol Airport is operated by ICTS, an Israeli-owned airport security company based in The Netherlands founded by former officers of the Shin Beit intelligence agency. Its subsidiaries are also involved in key security functions there, including ProCheck, Ramasso and I-SEC.
The Israeli security company has a record of staging false flag operations, including the September 11, 2001 attacks. ICaTS subsidiary Huntleigh provided passenger and baggage inspection services at Boston Logan Airport, where two of the four jetliners used in the 911 attack originated.
At Schipol Airport on Christmas 2009, ICTS allowed the “Underwear Bomber” Umar Farouk Abdulmutallah armed with explosives to slip past “sniffer” detectors to board a Detroit-bound Northwest flight, an incident that was a boon to Homeland Security and the global war on terrorism.
Initial information, even before the start of an official inquiry into MH17, raise serious questions of whether Israeli intelligence tampered with the flight controls and radar identification (transponder) system of the Malaysian-operated Boeing-777.
– MH17 deviated from the civilian flight path, which should cross close to the exit mouth of the Azov Sea, away from the current battle zone between the Ukraine military and militant ethnic Russian irregulars. Instead its navigation steered the jetliner on a more northerly course in contested airspace, where Ukraine military aircraft conduct both air strikes and troop transport missions, putting the Malaysian Airlines jet into jeopardy.
– The wide-body Boeing-777 jumbo jet is similar in profile to the Antonov (built by Kharkov Aircraft Industries in Ukraine) and Ilyushin (Russian-built) transport craft in service with the Ukraine military and air cargo fleets. At higher altitudes (MH17 was flying at 35,000 feet), the only way from ground level to identify a plane is by a coded radar response from its transponder signal. One possibility was that MH17 was programmed with a false responder code; while another problem could have been confusion with the transponder beam from a nearby Ukraine military craft. A more sinister scenario is the sending of a false ID signal from a ground-based vehicle.
In short, Israeli operatives could have loaded a bomb onto MH17 or used a false responder signal to lure a rebel missile battery to intercept a suspected incoming troop landing. Another issue for investigation, if these scenarios are verified, is the unspoken connection between the Boeing Corporation and the Israeli intelligence services. Boeing would have key data on tampering of any of its aircraft control systems, and both MH17 and MH370 were Boeing-777s.
Israeli intelligence had three possible motives for orchestrating a false flag incident blamed on ethnic Russians or on the Kremlin.
– first, the MH17 crash diverted international media attention from the launch of the Israeli invasion of Gaza, which is a serious rupture of existing peace accords and a massive assault on human rights. Malaysia is an outspoken voice in the UN and the world media on Palestinian rights in Gaza.
– second, Israel, even with the Zionist economic interests in Russia such as BP, has a historical interest in the 45 000-member strong Jewish community in the port of Odessa, which has a large stake in the financial sector, military electronics industry, missile production and weapons factories. PBN and GQR, lobbying organizations controlled by American Jewish neoconservatives, are the most influential force in Ukraine politics.
– third, the destruction of MH17 serves as a warning to the governments of Malaysia and Australia to cease any further investigation into the strong possibility that MH370 was hijacked by the Israeli military. MH370 was carrying engineers, designers, prototypes, specifications and a chip foundry for the world’s smallest microchip, the KL series. The leading edge technology is needed for Israel’s crash program to build a drone army, especially mini-robots capable of infiltrating Iran’s nuclear plants. (This writer has extensively researched a nd uncovered Israeli involvement in the MH370 hijacking at rense.com)
One point of bias that needs to be disclosed is that this writer is a sympathizer of Ukraine independence and opposes Russian intervention. In specific incidents, however, such as the destruction of MH17, one’s preferences must be set aside in pursuit of the facts relevant to the case. The Israeli role in this affair cannot be ignored, especially considering its abiding interests in independent Ukraine. Therefore, the Kiev government should launch an investigation into the possibility of sabotage by an ally so as not to harm& nbsp;its legitimacy by incriminating itself together with Israeli state-sponsored terrorism, legitimate grounds for reprisal by its adversary. A Ukraine that claims to be independent should try to be independent.
As an investigation team approaches the crash site, the real cover-up is yet to begin. The family members and friends of both targeted Malaysian Airlines jetliners are owed the truth and the culprits must be dragged to justice.
Yoichi Shimatsu is a science and technology journalist based in Hong Kong and former editor of The Japan Times Weekly in Tokyo.”
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