Tuesday 25 May 2021

 Factual challenge to the Jewish narrative of Palestine as an exclusive ancestral land.


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Shibli Zaman

"I wrote this after hours and hours of reading and research. At least tagging me when posting it is a small courtesy. Plagiarism is unnecessary and compromises credibility. Thank you."


"I’ve seen a number of Muslims, good Muslims, subtly duped by the falsity that the Jews have an “ancestral right” over Jerusalem. So it is absolutely necessary that I share some important history about Jerusalem and Palestine as a whole.

One of the oldest Zionist apologetic arguments you'll hear is that the Jews were somehow "the original inhabitants" or Palestine and, thereby, Jerusalem. But, historically, the Jews never held Jerusalem for any significant amount of time compared to all the other nations that lived and ruled there.
For roughly 3500 years --Yes, say that figure out loud: THREE THOUSAND AND FIVE HUNDRED YEARS-- in what is called the Proto-Canaanite period, Jerusalem belonged to the Canaanites who worshipped many gods and godesses. It wasn't until 2000BC do scholars find a reference that debatably refers to Jerusalem. The word is "Rusalimum" in texts of Egypt's Middle Kingdom. Scholars believe that the name is a consecration to "Shalim" a Canaanite deity of the netherworld from Ugaritic scriptures.
The territory passed from the Canaanites to the Egyptians, ultimately. So here we have Egyptians and Canaanites being the original inhabitants of Jerusalem for 3,500 years before the Jews ever conquered it.
Jerusalem was taken by King David in 1010BC and lost to the Egyptians in 925BC. Jehoash of Israel briefly recaptured it in 786BC but then lost it to the Assyrians in 740BC. That's just 131 years, just about as long as the Crusaders' rule of Jerusalem in the Middle Ages.
The Jewish Hasmoneans re-took it in 140BC under Simon Thassi but then lost it to the Persian Seleucides in 134. That's 6 more years of Jewish rule. Due to a Seleucid civil war, Judeah incidentally became independent in the chaos in 116BC. In 87BC the Jewish Hasmonean king executed 800 Jews for sedition. In 47BC they lost Jerusalem again, this time to the Romans. That's 69 years of rule.
In total, off and on the Jews ruled Jerusalem for MAYBE 206 years.
The Pre-Constantine Romans ruled it for 250 years.
The Christian Byzantines ruled it for 304 years.
The Muslims ruled it under the Rashidun, Umayyad and Abbasid Empires for 332 years.
The Muslim Fatimids ruled it for 129 years.
The Crusaders took it from the Muslims and held it for 88 years.
The Muslim ruler Saladin conquered it in 1187 and his descendents held it for 63 years.
The Muslim Mamluk Empire ruled it for 236 years.
The Ottomans ruled it for 401 years.
That's 206 years of Jewish rule.
392 years of Christian rule.
And over EIGHT HUNDRED YEARS of Muslim rule.
And before any of them, the Canaanites and the Egyptians lived and ruled there for 3,500 years.
Longer than anyone.
So since the common Israeli argument that the Jews "deserve" Palestine because they are the “original" inhabitants has been proven a bold faced lie, based on this argument should we give Palestine away in this order?
Canaanites? Oops. The Bible says God ordered them exterminated to extinction in a genocide that included many other unfortunate nations:
"Completely destroy them--the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites--as the LORD your God has commanded you." [Deuteronomy 20:17]
But, all was not lost. Some Canaanites apparently survived the Israelite genocide. Where are they?
Lebanon.
"We show that present-day Lebanese derive most of their ancestry from a Canaanite-related population, which therefore implies substantial genetic continuity in the Levant since at least the
So the Lebanese are the people who scientifically and genetically are proven to be the original dwellers of not only Jerusalem but all of Palestine (so-called "Israel"). The argument should pretty much completely end there." END OF ARTICLE
Actual history tells us that Jews ruled Palestine for barely over 2 centuries. The Christians ruled it for nearly 4 centuries, double that time. the Muslims ruled it for over 8 centuries, more than doubling the time the Christians ruled and QUADRUPLING the time that the Jews ruled. And as the Palestinian people are a religious confederation of Christians and Muslims, both consistently at peace with each other, that puts their birthright to it at 1200 combined years. Nearly a thousand years longer than Jews ever reigned over Jerusalem.
And like it always has been throughout Islamic history, the Jews are welcome to stay there, but as co-inhabitants with their Christian and Muslim neighbors. No barbwired walls, no soldiers shooting little kids, no stealing people’s homes like bandits, no apartheid separating Palestinians from Jews."

5 comments:

  1. Iz ra he ll has been, and is, run by central European terrorists and racists, who kill and maim to retain power over land that they invaded and control by intimidation and military might, fully backed by the US which is fully complicit in its criminal behaviour. The US population has been blinded by a zionist controlled media and a warped Christian world view that sees the situation through the prism of biblical prophesy and the inevitability of je wi sh control of palestine. The public mindset has not changed much from the 13th Century Crusades, nor the ability to turn a blind eye to suffering and despotism if it suits, or for that matter to influence those who hold the reins of financial, military and political power, to prevent outrageous injustice to millions of people. If America with all its influence, cannot stop a tiny state from slaughtering the innocent, what is it good for?

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  2. FACEBOOK keeps censoring my posts. They say it is because they go against their 'standards' but of course they never explain how or why. In the absence of any factual errors, I can only assume it is because the views expressed differ from theirs and the MSM narrative or because in the words from a famous film "they can't handle the truth", ironically provided not from 'conspiracist' sources but from unimpeachable government ones. FB is neither a supporter of free speech or interested in promulgating the most basic safety information, enabling people to make up their own minds. Clearly that is what it is terrified of. It is in fact part of the international propaganda machine that allows only one biased opinion to be heard and considered, the very antithesis of an ethical 'social network'.

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  3. Andre Lefebvre
    Thanks for sharing this! Seems like in 2014 there was a spiritual shift that hit a lot of people in the West. A still small voice also started bugging me to ask questions and let the answers be what they were, and grow from there.
    It hit hard as a Christian too, as I had been under that kind of spell of "Stand with Israel" without even questioning or understanding. As I was awakening, I quickly made a decision to mostly listen to Israeli Jewish people who were defending the Palestinians in their quest for self-determination. Visiting the land also in 2018 glued a lot of this together.
    I consider this to be a miracle, a gift I received, otherwise I would have died stupid and supporting ethnic cleansing on the basis of moronic fascist rhetoric. I keep learning, and try to share what I learned...

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  4. Andre Lefebvre
    Tim Veater This totally jives with my own observations: IF I'M RIGHT - what was called Israel first of all was not a land without people, but Canaan, a land with plenty of people. When you think that Jericho is 12,000 years old...
    Second, the Israelites engaged in massacres and genocides to "claim the land as a rightful gift from their God." Whaaaaa????
    Third of all, their history of "ruling" autonomously seems to have lasted maybe between 300 and 350 years, with a succession of kings who brought them a lot of bad karma, including a couple exiles, and multiple wars, something that was kind of par for the course during that era (bronze age?).
    Finally, as far as what happened under the Roman empire, I'm not sure if the Jews left, or if as others suggested, they remained there, over the centuries some converted to Christianity, others converted to Islam, and so many of today's Palestinians could actually be of Jewish descent (I have friends who confirmed that kind of lineage).
    For 2,000 years we know that Jerusalem - and the land - has been occupied over and over again, yet was NEVER in under the rule of Jews. Jerusalem has been under the care of both Christians and Muslims.
    So where is the proof of legitimacy by today's Israeli settlers, that they are Jewish, and that you can just grab lands with military today and call it legally yours??

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  5. WARNING! "Journalist Emily Wilder was fired from the Associated Press after she was targeted in a Republican smear campaign for her activism in support of Palestinian human rights while at Stanford University. Wilder was just two weeks into her new job as a news associate covering the western United States when the Stanford College Republicans singled out some of her past social media posts. The AP fired her less than 48 hours after the group began to post about her and did not offer an explanation for how she violated the social media policy. The experience "could have made me question my commitment to those values that compelled me to do journalism, but I will not yield them," Wilder says. "I know that I need to channel them into journalism in a team, in an organization that is similarly aligned."
    https://www.democracynow.org/2021/5/25/journalist_emily_wilder_ap_firing?fbclid=IwAR1QK8AU162pTimZhQ5LV3lvG0zXUD2WuQmmJ9tJXa1VvWhvYJuwCjCeBmc

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