Veater Ecosan: "The World About Us"

Wednesday 26 August 2020

My posts on the Sars Cov 2 (Covid 19) epidemic of fear.

No one can say I didn't try! "Who hath ears to hear, let him hear…"

'Behind the mask'.

They may have some application in medical and surgical situations, but for the general population in the open air and for children the disadvantages and dangers far outweigh any claimed benefits beside all the social and communication problems. To require masks when every indicator shows the epidemic is over, at least in the UK, is clearly irrational. If they had any efficacy the requirement to wear them would have been made at the beginning of the epidemic not at the end. This is nothing more than an international psy-op and infringement of the basic human right to breathe fresh air unobstructed and to impose it on children shown to be totally immune to the bug is nothing short of an outrage. All of this is mere the prequel to forced vaccination and may be more the clear objective of Gates, Fauci, and big pharma, long before the virus was intentionally launched on the world.

The government could have taken a rational and sensible approach to this bug. Instead it chose to panic and terrorise the public on a wildly exaggerated threat. It pretended to science but in fact was driven by superstitious fear which is being perpetuated by its approach to children in and out of school. The much publicised but by the government's own admission, misleading Covid-19 statistics, children - i.e. those under 18 - have not been, and presumably will not be, threatened by the disease. In the whole country during the period of the alleged 'pandemic', only 6 persons in this category have died with Coronavirus. (Note 'with' not 'of') All were suffering from critical, life threatening conditions that they were not expected to survive. Yet on the back of this the government advises children to wear face masks, with all their own and un-researched possible side effects, to say nothing of their psychological and sociological consequences. No wonder the new Covid-guidance is making parents nervous and quite unnecessarily. See: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2237475-covid-19-news-children-at-strikingly-low-risk-of-severe-illness/

Image may contain: 1 person, text that says '"Governments love pandemics. They love pandemics for the same reason they love war. Because it gives them the ability to impose controls on the population that the population would otherwise NEVER accept. To create institutions and mechanisms for orchestrating and imposing obedience." Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Berlin, August 29 2020'

Image may contain: 1 person, text that says '"Governments love pandemics. They love pandemics for the same reason they love war. Because it gives them the ability to impose controls on the population that the population would otherwise NEVER accept. To create institutions and mechanisms for orchestrating and imposing obedience." Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Berlin, August 29 2020'

14 comments:

Veaterecosan26 August 2020 at 16:15
The number of commercial premises (shops) that you can enter without complying with these evil psychological controls is getting smaller and smaller. There is no scientific or even common sense reason for the measures, but shop assistants appear to take great pleasure in enforcing them, despite being masked themselves behind plastic sheets. If these things were effective it would mean that they were safe from customers even if they were suffering from an infectious condition. That they apparently still feel vulnerable must mean the measures are ineffective or they don't trust them even when there is absolutely no threat. How much longer before no business can be done unless you comply? Shopping is already a miserable affair. Will food soon become conditional on compliant behaviour, vaccination, micro-chipping, total psychological surrender to nameless, faceless, forces, above and beyond all or any democratic control? That is the reality we are facing but people appear too weak or stupid to do anything but assist their own destruction. Thank you government. Thank you media. Thank you education system for making us all so complacent, malleable and GULLIBLE.
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Veaterecosan27 August 2020 at 03:05
Ross Cowan Tim Veater some advantages. LOL//been an ICU Nurse for 30 years.. I suppose all the hundreds of thousands of educational and practice hours of a team of pros .. are still around cuz masks dont work..

Tim Veater Ross Cowan "It's impossible to prove a negative" Ross. If you noticed I did not disparage the use of masks in certain medical and surgical situations so I see no area of disagreement on that point. However if your position is that because mask may have some benefits to patient or medical personnel in these circumstances, it should be extended to the general population including children both in the open air and in domestic premises, we must agree to differ. The medical literature can be summed up in the following recent quote, "Evidence specifically supporting the effectiveness of masks for prevention of SARS-CoV-2 infection is lacking. Whether effectiveness can be extrapolated from other studies is unclear." (Source below) It is said that there is no evidence of harm from wearing masks, and of course they vary widely in efficacy on a wide range of factors, but that is also an open question, as never before have so many been required to wear them. From a common sense perspective there can be no doubt that they impede respiratory air flow and particulates or they would not be recommended in any case. Further in doing so must trap droplets from nose and mouth that in classical infection theory are the means by which viral and bacterial infections are transferred from one person to another. This then raises the question as to whether this poses its own dangers, particularly with separate pulmonary problems. I would suggest it may well. As for children shown to be virtually immune to this particular SARS Cov 2 danger, to obstruct respiratory flow, except in the most extreme cases, can only be detrimental to the development of the lungs and of bodily systems more generally, without even considering the not insignificant social and psychological inhibitors.So the issue is not whether masks are wrong in the surgical context but whether it is right to impose the duty to wear one on everyone in every situation, even where the risk is virtually none existent, as is currently the case in the UK. (I cannot speak for the USA) Ref: https://www.acc.org/.../masks-for-prevention-of...
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Veaterecosan27 August 2020 at 03:55
The more ppl are tested, the more will be shown to be carrying the virus or have anti-bodies to it, depending of course on the type and accuracy of the test applied. This will have the effect of pushing up the numbers but these alone will mislead. It is not exposure to the virus that is important but its CONSEQUENCE. If the consequences are minimal or non existent there should be no need for panic or blanket measures, as is currently the case.
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Veaterecosan27 August 2020 at 03:57
"Critical shortages of personal protective equipment (PPE) have resulted in the US Centers for Disease Control downgrading their recommendations for health workers treating COVID-19 patients from respirators to surgical masks and finally to home-made cloth masks. As authors of the only published randomised controlled clinical trial of cloth masks, we have been getting daily emails about this from health workers concerned about using cloth masks. The study found that cloth mask wearers had higher rates of infection than even the standard practice control group of health workers, and the filtration provided by cloth masks was poor compared to surgical masks. At the time of the study, there had been very little work done in this space, and so little thought into how to improve the protective value of the cloth masks. Until now, most guidelines on PPE did not even mention cloth masks, despite many health workers in Asia using them.

Health workers are asking us if they should wear no mask at all if cloth masks are the only option. Our research does not condone health workers working unprotected. We recommend that health workers should not work during the COVID-19 pandemic without respiratory protection as a matter of work health and safety. In addition, if health workers get infected, high rates of staff absenteeism from illness may also affect health system capacity to respond. Some health workers may still choose to work in inadequate PPE. In this case, the physic.."

https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577.responses#covid-19-shortages-of-masks-and-the-use-of-cloth-masks-as-a-last-resort
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Veaterecosan27 August 2020 at 04:36
Seems ppl are coming around?
"Copied:
The truth is now hate speech for those who hate the truth!
For this 30 days fb jail
“THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG THE VIRUS WAS A HOAX AFTER ALL ... THE CDC WHO AND ALL THE SO CALLED EXPERTS LIED TO YOU!!! AND HERE'S THE LIST:
🔺"CDC admitted they screwed up COVID19 infection counts and intentionally misled the public and have apologized, clarifying that the amount of people truly infected is much lower than what was originally reported -- an error so egregious it made the director of the Harvard Global Health Institute say “how could the CDC make this mistake? This is a mess."
🔺The American Coronavirus Task Force also admitted to fudging the National COVID19 death count when Dr. Birx said the deaths are people who died “with” COVID19 not “from” COVID19, thus making the real death count much lower than what is currently being reported.
🔺Dr. Anthony Fauci admitted masks won’t help against the virus and mask manufacturers are now including warnings that their products do not deter COVID19.
🔺Fauci also said that continuing to close the country could cause irreparable damage.
🔺CDC backtracked their initial claim that led governors to shutdown their states & clarified that COVID19 does not spread easily on surfaces.
🔺Governor of New York Andrew Cuomo confirmed a recent health study showing that 70% of new infections actually originate at home, thus making stay at home orders one of the most dangerous mandates currently in place.
🔺Trump stopped funding the WHO and threatened to cut off money permanently until they can prove they are no longer corruptly influenced by communist China after they lied to our country about human to human transmission of COVID19 in January.
🔺The curve is flattened, the CDC, WHO, Dr. Fauci, our governors, and many more were completely wrong about the potential threat of this virus.
🔺Even California is opening up sooner than anyone expected because the evidence contradicts the long standing and inaccurate narrative still upheld by the extremely dishonest & corrupt media.
🔺If you are still living in fear, Don’t be. The media, global organizations, the government, and its agencies “mislead” the public.
🔺People called those of us who knew this all along conspiracy theorists, but it turns out we were just following the facts!
🔺Open up your businesses, churches, and homes. Don’t fall for the lies any longer. If you fell for the lies this time, wake up and join the army of truth seekers fighting on the front lines.
🔺 WHO have just admitted that transmission of the virus from an asymptomatic carriers - the whole reason for the lockdown, is rare!! ie you could not spread it before showing any symptoms!!
⚠️ The #CDC just confirmed a 0.2% death-rate for #COVID19 ...
For that, we have:
• Added nearly 6 trillion to national debt
• Laid-off or furloughed 50 million workers
• Placed 60 million on food stamps
• Gone from 3.5%to 14.7% unemployment
• Crippled the petroleum industry
• Ruined the tourism industry
• Bankrupted the service industry
• Caused an impending meat and protein crisis
• Threatened, fined, and arrested church leaders
• Exacerbated mental health problems
• Shut down schools and colleges
• Given unbridled power to unelected officials
• Increased suicides higher than COVID deaths
• Delayed surgeries and treatments for profound illnesses
• Infringed upon countless important civil liberties
• Placed 300 million Americans on house arrest
Bill Gates has placed himself in such a position of influence by heavily funding all corners to make this lie happen.
We need to start treating it as the lie it is."
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Veaterecosan27 August 2020 at 05:05
It was Wetherspoons and Halfords in last couple of days. I could not get a drink in the former without filling out one of their ridiculous forms that breaches my privacy. (Who can say in a pub environment who will have access to it or the consequences if any customer happens to prove corona positive?) At the latter, the assistant despite wearing a mask himself and standing behind perspex, insisted I wear the mask he provided, without which he would not serve me. He obviously had no confidence in their efficacy to protect him from a non-infectious customer. A bookshop would not let me in without a mask. Again the proprietor was behind a screen and the shop was empty. This is sheer lunacy in practice. Needless to say I did not give the firms my business!
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Veaterecosan27 August 2020 at 15:09
Crimebodge: Why you shouldn't pay your Covid fine
180,621 views•6 May 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfWOUgHSq24

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Veaterecosan28 August 2020 at 04:03
THE MASK AND LIFE
By Michel Rosenzweig (Belgian philosopher and psychoanalyst)

Living permanently hidden in closed spaces and outdoors as this virus runs low noise is total non sense. And whatever the members of the mandatory mask think who still see nothing but a simple hygiene measure towards others, what still remains to be shown is all of everyday life that is affected and sustainable. Because everything is now subject to the rule of the mandatory mask, every action, every move, visits, appointments, it is our whole daily life that is now governed and pace by this mask diet : go out, shop, go to hairdresser, restaurant, bar, museum, movie theaters, sports, dance, etc etc.
What if this regime is imposed today under healthy health conditions, what will happen when the other mutant coronavirus and influenza return soon?
At the slightest cold, at the slightest flu symptoms, what will we do?
If these drastic limiting constraints are imposed when they are not justified today, what measures will we be allowed to flu season?
Under these conditions, it is clear that this regime will be maintained without any time limit. It's kind of like we've built a huge dam in the face of a hypothetical oversized wave, a tsunami whose occurrence is far from certain. It's kind of like the Tartar desert with its fortress erected against an enemy that never came.
We have tipped into an absolute precautionary universe aimed at asepsia and zero risk to preserve life and we are actually losing our lives. Because life is not survival.
When you walk on a shopping street in your neighborhood and a hidden stranger goes on you to warn you that police just verbalized two people for not wearing a mask while there is nothing to say that it is mandatory in this area, you realize that something going on that has strictly nothing to do with health. When you take public transport and veterinary patrols walk through the platform staring at passengers, you understand that this world has become unbelievable. When you enter your familiar bistro and you are required to put on your mask for 2 m50, and when you settle in, the hidden waitress presents you with a notebook in which you are invited to enter your name and phone number to be allowed to eat, you understand that nothing will ever be more like before and that joy, pleasure of going out, conviviality, exchanges and shares in these conditions, it's over.
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Veaterecosan28 August 2020 at 04:03
I feel sorry for all the people who endorse this health dictatorship regime sincerely because I think they have lost their common sense, common sense, ability to judge and discriminate. And I mean it. These people who insult others are actually suffering from another much more toxic virus, that of media intoxication and brain formatting fueled and maintained by medical and political anxiety and against which there is no cure or no cure vaccine.
This mask they sometimes demand with violence in the name of their health in a mask actually another one, the one who veils their conscience and above all their freedom of conscience, to think, appreciate and properly evaluate the situation, the one who veils reason at profit from the fantasy of deadly disease running around every corner, that of fear panic of being contaminated with the plague.
First there was a virus. Then the sick, then the dead. Like every year in the same season, this year the dead will have just been more focused on a shorter time. But in total, compared to annual and seasonal epidemic peaks? Honestly bother to look at a public health chart spread over the past few years.
It is the visibility of this epidemic that shocked consciousness and built an image, an error of reality, a discordance, it is the changing speeches and messages, conflicting and paradoxical injunctions, conflicts of interest of any category , the political instrumentalization, recovery and exploitation of the epidemic that have blurred the correct and rational readability of this episode.
Yes there was an epidemic due to a coronavirus whose origin remains mysterious to me and others.
Yes the most fragile and oldest were victims of this. Either. So what? Is this enough reason to impose this completely disproportionate health dictatorship when we need lightness and air?
Is this a reason to lock up and force a whole population when nothing justifies it when you look at the curves of hospitalizations and deaths?
And then what?
Electronic and digital control of contaminated people?
Color codes?
An electronic bracelet for the pestiferates?
And then why make it look like this diet will end with a vaccine when we know perfectly well that no coronavirus vaccine has ever really worked? If seasonal flu shots worked massively, I guess it would be known. Has the flu been eradicated with a single vaccine?
So I admit, yes, I admit and I gladly recognize that I have a well-known syndrome: that of the canary in the mine. You know, that bird that miners were carrying to prevent them from escaping methane gas from charcoal, an odorless and undetectable gas.
When the canary fell asleep, or died,
it was time to get out.
© Michel Rosenzweig
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Veaterecosan28 August 2020 at 14:36
Ed de Boer
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As I posted earlier, the term New World Order was already used in 1915 by Nahun Goldmann, Longitime President of the World Jewish Congress, in his book "The Spirit of Militarism" (1915).
In 1928, Baruch Levy wrote in a letter to Karl Marx, published in 'La Revue de Paris', page.574, June 1, 1928:
"The Jewish people as a whole will become its own Messiah. It will attain world dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy and by the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship.

In this New World Order the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands."
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Veaterecosan28 August 2020 at 14:44
Ed de Boer Here is the earlier mention of the NWO, to which globalists like Bush sr. referred:
The term New World Order was already used in 1915 by Nahun Goldmann, Longitime President of the World Jewish Congress
Excerpt from his book "The Spirit of Militarism" (1915) - Page 37-38, Link: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt...

"The historical mission of our world revolution is to rearrange a new culture of humanity to replace the previous social system. This conversion and re-organization of global society requires two essential steps: firstly, the destruction of the old established order, secondly, design and imposition of the new order. The first stage requires elimination of all frontier borders, nationhood and culture, public policy ethical barriers and social definitions, only then can the destroyed old system elements be replaced by the imposed system elements of our new order.
The first task of our world revolution is Destruction. All social strata and social formations created by traditional society must be annihilated, individual men and women must be uprooted from their ancestral environment, torn out of their native milieus, no tradition of any type shall be permitted to remain as sacrosanct, traditional social norms must only be viewed as a disease to be eradicated, the ruling dictum of the new order is; nothing is good so everything must be criticized and abolished, everything that was, must be gone.
The forces preserving traditional society are "free market capitalism" in the social economic realm, and "democracy" in the mental political realm. The capitalist free market does not fight against the old economic order, nor does democracy lead a fierce hot battle against the forces of reaction which oppose the new order, therefore our transformative work will be imposed through the unifying principle of the militaristic spirit, the negative task of destroying the old established order will be completely solved and finished only when the all the human masses are all forcibly collectivized as uniformed soldiers under imposed mass-conformity of new order culturing.
After destruction of the old order, construction of the new order is a larger and more difficult task. We will have torn out the old limbs from their ancient roots in deep layers, social norms will be lying disorganized and anarchic so they must be blocked against new cultural forms and social categories naturally re-emerging. The general masses will have been first persuaded to join as equals in the first task of destroying their own traditional society and economic culture, but then the new order must be forcibly established through people again being divided and differentiated only in accordance with the new pyramidal hierarchical system of our imposed global monolithic new world order.
Capitalism must be condemned as a fundamental misfortune caused by the wealth of capitalist power exploiting the false separation between the high rulers and the oppressed exploited masses. The masses must be induce to repudiate the concept of personal wealth and personal rights, this second task will also be solved only by virtue of the great guiding principle of the subordinating militaristic spirit in which superior ranks impose order on inferiors, which will bring the true aristocratic principle of "might is right" in the new world order: "those who can rule - shall rule".
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Veaterecosan29 August 2020 at 05:06
Despite their erudition, neither could predict or factor in the Covid dimension. Even the most intelligent can be fooled on April 1st!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEXL5USuDGI&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3iQqV51MneuZ1z4JjO6ft4gxhfyMdiJLO-uRrbouQF8W2hSXsrE3DZw6g
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Veaterecosan3 September 2020 at 13:00
On 'Bristol Live'

'SAFE' from a non-existent danger do you mean? Please publicise the ACTUAL statistics, namely in the whole country on six persons under 18 have died allegedly carrying the virus, and all of them from OTHER life-threatening conditions. In other words under 18's are under less risk from covid at school than their journey to it or from the wearing of masks and social distancing!

It's always unwise to argue public health issues from a personal and emotional point of view though understandable I suppose. However as Jason mentioned you have missed the point which is that these people died WITH covid and not FROM it. However tragic that may appear the only conclusion to be drawn is that for some reason under 18's are not at risk and that therefore all these extreme mask and distancing measures are bordering on the lunatic and born on the torrent of irrational media propaganda that has so damaged lives. If as you seem to suggest you are so very concerned about the six, I wonder how much time in your life you have devoted to being concerned about the c. 550,000 that die each and every year, about whom we hear virtually nothing?
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Veaterecosan5 September 2020 at 13:48
Ed de Boer
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Arts zegt waar het op staat en dat wordt niet toegestaan. Gekopieerd:
'Huisarts neemt ontslag: ‘Het ziek houden van het volk mag nu wel stoppen’
Huisarts Marije Berkelaar baarde onlangs opzien toen ze opriep om niet mee te doen aan de coronamaatregelen. Ze kreeg vervolgens een intimiderende brief van de inspectie op de mat omdat ze uit de pas liep. Ook belde een persoon die anoniem wil blijven de kliklijn om haar werkgever te informeren over uitspraken die ze had gedaan op s...
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Doctor says what it says and that is not allowed. Copied:
' Family doctor resigns: ' Keeping the people sick can stop now '
Family doctor Marije Berkelaar bore recently when she called on not to participate in the corona measures. She received an intimidating letter from the inspection on the mat because she walked out of the pass. A person who wants to remain anonymous also called the click line to inform her employer about statements she had made on social media. Berkelaar has decided to keep the honour to himself and resign from the general practitioner. ′′ I no longer work for a system soaked with pharmaceutical corruption. Keeping the people dependent, scared and sick can stop now. I'm working on a future where people are autonomously back in their strength; healthy and from love," let them know in a video message.
The core of her previous message was: ′′ Under the motto corona there are serious violations of human rights. The virus is less contagious and less lethal than a flu virus. Through anxiety politics, extensive propaganda and censorship, the population is imposed a one-sided image. We are imposing senseless and extremely unhealthy measures: quarantine of healthy people, the 1,5 meter company, the use of disinfecting handgel and mouth caps, and maybe even a vaccine. Don't participate. Feed your health, not your fear. Improve your defense. Go outside, move, smile, sing, dance, connect and hug each other."
Doctors have been under fire since the start of the corona crisis. They are being censored massively, removed from social media and therefore even indicated. Earlier, GP Rob Elens received the inspection on his roof after successfully treating corona patients with hydroxychloroquine. This is happening all over the world. In the United States, doctor Scott Jensen had to answer for the medical disciplinary lecture because he said Covid-19 was not much worse than a heavy flu. He was finally acquitted. Arts Simone Gold was less lucky. She got fired on a standing foot. And in Britain a British Pakistan doctor was suspended for 12 months after making critical statements about Bill Gates. ' ' '
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