Friday, 8 May 2020

"Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics."

There follows text and graphs taken from a BBC publication here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274    It provides statistical information relating to Coronavirus cases and deaths from two different sources - the government Department of Health and Social Care and the semi-independent Office of National Statistics (ONS). The collection and processing of these two related sets of figures are therefore separate and rely on different processes. (See: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/causesofdeath/articles/comparisonofweeklydeathoccurrencesinenglandandwales/latest

The former come essentially from the NHS (i.e. doctors and managers) the latter mainly from death certificates issued by doctors and registered accordingly. Although on the one hand facts and figures cannot lie, the way in which the figures are collected and interpreted, may lead to false assumptions, as may the way in which they are presented, as here by the BBC. The figures may also throw up additional questions that have no answer.


Figure 1: The cumulative number of deaths involving COVID-19 in England using different data sources, up to 24 April 2020


Daily death counts released on GOV∙UK- pre 29 April reporting
Daily death counts released on GOV∙UK - post 29 April reporting
NHS England by date of death - as published on 3 May
ONS deaths by date of registration – registered by 24 April
ONS deaths by actual date of death – registered by 2 May
05 March 202013 March 202021 March 202029 March 202006 April 202014 April 202022 April 2020
010,00020,00030,000
Number of deaths

21 March 2020
 Daily death counts released on GOV∙UK- pre 29 April reporting: 257
 Daily death counts released on GOV∙UK - post 29 April reporting: 264
 NHS England by date of death - as published on 3 May: 552
 ONS deaths by date of registration – registered by 24 April: 109
 ONS deaths by actual date of death – registered by 2 May: 540
Source: Department of Health and Social Care, NHS England and Office for National Statistics



Figure 3: The cumulative number of care home residence deaths in care homes involving COVID-19 in England


01 May 202028 April 202025 April 202022 April 202019 April 202016 April 202013 April 202010 April 2020
01,0002,0003,0004,0005,0006,0007,000
Number of deaths

11 April 2020
 Deaths: 141
Source: Care Quality Commission data published by the Office for National Statistics

To the uninitiated, the BBC report can only create fear and alarm, the necessary prerequisites to ensure people abide by the government's draconian lock-down conditions. You will note there is no attempt to place the figures in context or to discuss how in some respects they may be misleading. For example overall death rates could be compared with previous normal years or more specifically how current Covid-19 deaths relate to previous to overall flu deaths as this might just come down to re-categorising what might normally be expected, particularly in high-risk groups. There is absolutely no attempt to drill down to the actual significance of someone dying with Corona, or discussing how this can be positively misleading as to actual cause. "Corona-related deaths" it is clear means only that the deceased person tested positive to the virus. It is a misleading inflation to say the person died from it.

Similarly a false impression is given that all are equally susceptible and at risk when in fact the evidence here and abroad suggests largely only the elderly and ill suffer fatal consequences. For the majority of healthy individuals the consequences appear to be limited to flu-like symptoms or none at all. Even the last graph related to testing is presented as a failure ("Tests stay below 100 000"). However over a million people have been tested in a month - some more than once - but no information is available what percentage show positive, presumably with little or no adverse effect.

Other studies around the world show a much larger percentage test positive with little or no symptoms. Whether they are also immune and/or infectious is a separate issue that has not been determined. In the Cornwall case illustrated in which roughly 1:1000 (531 of 568,000) are said to be infected with confirmed cases, of which 20% die (n= 125) 

In addition it is claimed  Covid-19 represents 11% of all deaths.  In other words, despite one in a thousand getting the disease, one in five die from it. Frankly these figures appear disproportionate and alarmist. They require explanation and context and cannot be taken at face or projected on the whole population. 

It is now generally agreed that actual death rate is somewhere between 0.3 and 0.8 % of those that contract the disease which is little different from 'traditional' flu. When the susceptible cohorts, particularly the elderly and those suffering very serious underlying illnesses and diseases, the rate for the under sixty fives must be so minimal as to be practically non-existent. Now how does this square with measures preventing this latter group from working and mixing normally, albeit following sensible hygienic measures? And where is the justification in stoking the paranoia and irrational behaviour we witness in Supermarkets and elsewhere?

Given this is a one off epidemic, we would expect total Cornwall deaths to leap by over 10% for the period in question. Until full statistics become available the comparison cannot be made, but I very much doubt that will be the case. If death rate remains roughly the same it means likely that Corona was given undue prominence as a cause of death.

If testing shows a much greater proportion of the population is in fact carrying the virus without effect, registering someone dying from another condition, whilst testing positive for Corona may signify very little.

Care home deaths certainly appear to be up but it should be noted that in no more than half of the cases are related to Covid. Nor even in these can it be assumed it was the principal cause of death. Some other factor is obviously involved here and the most likely one is directly related to government policy NOT Coronavirus.

Although working in nursing homes is considered 'essential', the lock-down has undoubtedly had staffing consequences. It might also have had psychological consequences for both staff and patients including a 'do not revive' policy for the elderly. For the elderly some exercise and social interaction are critical components of survival and any deterioration in nutrition and/or hydration are dangerous. Has this been a consequence of corona-fear? Even anxiety alone can contribute to illness and premature death. 

The graph referred to seeks only to dramatise coronavirus as the explanation and ignores completely the non-covid related deaths that must have a cause. Can we ignore the rather sinister fact of government provision to this most vulnerable sector was quite the worst. It is almost as if it wanted the fatal consequences to the old and infirm, to support its inflated claims of deadly epidemic.

The graph of national coronavirus-related deaths is dramatic but suggests they are now in decline. First what is the impact of testing which shows a similar curve? Could part of the explanation be that as more testing was introduced, so a relationship with deaths from other causes increased? And as with any complicating infectious agent, the most vulnerable are always impacted first, reducing with time. The graph may demonstrate this characteristic rather than one relating to the general population which is otherwise inferred.

Little can be deduced from this graph unless it is related to the overall death rate as related to same and earlier years. On both counts until the last few weeks it remained within normal parameters. A spike has belatedly occurred but significantly when alleged Corona related deaths have started to decline. 

Coronavirus: How to understand the death toll - BBC News
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1ARAB_enGB463GB464&sxsrf=ALeKk01n_cofExQxvJE7MBXQWwTbn7ttSQ:1588944657888&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=deaths+england+graph&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj1nJqPsKTpAhVBUcAKHe8MAuMQsAR6BAgKEAE&biw=1248&bih=844#imgrc=8ZCb6uMNp2cvEM

It should be noted that Covd-19 deaths followed a fairly parallel and lesser track to that of the 2015 flu epidemic up to the end of March, when it shows an inexplicable and unexpected increase. Strangely this upturn coincides with the Prime Minister's announcement of the draconian "stay at home" policy. It is therefore a moot point whether these measures, rather than reducing deaths, increased them? And whether if they had not been introduced, the infection and death rates would not have followed that of 2015?

This begs the serious question yet again as to what extent the the government's lock-down measures, rather than than the virus, have caused the increase? If time and analysis shows the role of Corona was much less than what we were told and the role of the governments measures, or lack of them, was much greater, not only will the damaging economic and social consequences have been for nothing, those that designed and implemented the measures will stand culpable for thousands of premature and unnecessary deaths.





Following extract of BBC article here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

There are now more than 200,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in the UK and more than 30,000 people with the virus have died.
The actual number of cases is estimated to be higher because testing was limited to hospital patients and NHS and care home staff until recently.

Graphic showing daily case and death data. Total deaths are at 30,615, up 539 from yesterday. Total cases are at 206,715, up 5,614 from yesterday



There are 531 confirmed cases in Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly, out of a local population of 568,210
In Cornwall there were 126 coronavirus-related deaths up to the 24 April. In this area 11% of all deaths involved coronavirus between 29 February and 24 April
Note: Cases only include people who have had a positive test for the virus. Not everyone with the virus will have had a test. Deaths include any death where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate. Death data updated weekly, cases updated daily.
Source: UK public health bodies, ONS, NRS and NISRA. Figures last updated 07 May
Bar chart shows daily deaths are coming down


Recent data from the Office for National Statistics, which has provided the best picture so far of the impact on care homes, suggests that more than a fifth of all coronavirus-related deaths are happening there.

Figures published on Tuesday show that deaths in care homes are continuing to rise. In Scotland and Northern Ireland, care homes have overtaken hospitals as the place where most coronavirus deaths happen.

There is a slight time lag in the figures, which date back to 24 April, because the ONS relies on information from death certificates, rather than positive tests.


Chart showing deaths in care homes continuing to rise, 5th May






Chart showing the number of tests provided by the government since the start of April. The figure has only twice been above the government's target of 100,000.





Graphic showing UK testing numbers. A total of 1.5 million tests have been carried out on 1.1 million people.



MUCH THE SAME MISUSE OF STATISTICS IN FRANCE

Peter EL Baze
Le gouverne-ment mais les chiffres ne mentent pas.
On peut mentir sur le nombre de morts réellement à cause du COVID-19.
On ne peux pas mentir sur le nombre TOT...
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The rule but numbers don't lie.
We can lie about the number of dead actually because of the COVID-19.
Can't lie about the total number of deaths.
Last figures published by INSEE on 1 May 2020:
At national level, the total number of deaths recorded in France between 1 March and 20 April:
109 831 deaths in this period in 2020 in France
86 606 in 2019 same period
94 881 in 2018 same period
and more in 2017 (https://www.lepoint.fr/societe/2017-plus-de-600-000-deces-en-france-un-record-depuis-l-apres-guerre-15-10-2018-2263064_23.php)
So the real figure is for this period of 14 950 plus all causes combined compared to 2018 and even less compared to 2017.
We are entitled to strongly doubt the official figure of 26 000 so-called dead-19, the majority of which is no proof of the presence of COVID-19 and preventing the sick of other serious diseases to go to their doctor and to heal themselves (from or significant increase in heart stops reported by ambulance).
Only 0,8 % of the deaths in hospital in Italy were healthy, all the others had 1 to 4 pathologies that could lead to the death of these elderly people.
Despite this harmful general lockdown, we are very below the big flu outbreaks like the flu in 1969 in France.
The death rate in France (dead / Number infected) is between 0,3 % and 0,5 % of the infected, the same as the flu.
In the press you find completely false death rate numbers, proof: the Pasteur Institute estimated the number of infected at 4 million 1 week ago when the number of alleged deaths was 20 :
20 000 / 4 000 000= 0,5%
Official death figures awarded to COVID-19 worldwide as at 6 May 2020: 247 dead
We are far from the biggest recent flu outbreaks that have killed 650 people in the world. (https://www.who.int/fr/news-room/detail/14-12-2017-jusqu-à-650-000-décès-par-an-sont-dus-aux-affections-respiratoires-liées-à-la-grippe-saisonnière)
In total, an epidemic that is on its end and even WITHOUT a vaccine (unlike the flu) has currently killed 2 times as much as the 1969 flu and as much as the flu of 2017!

The government already claims that if there had not been a general lockdown there would have been 62 dead (A2 JT).
The reality shows that, on the contrary, countries that have NOT done general lockdown (Sweden, Netherlands, South Korea, etc...) have had far fewer deaths per head than France.
South Korea, which has not done any general lockdown but massive tests and lockdown only of the infected people, as of 6 May, 255 dead per 50 million people.



8 comments:

  1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrL9QKGQrWk

    German virologist: Covid-19 is less deadly than we thought

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  2. The cruelty of social distancing, with Lionel Shriver -- The Brendan O'Neill Show. 33,658 views•May 5, 2020 SPIKED PODCAST

    Novelist Lionel Shriver talks to Brendan O’Neill about the catastrophe of lockdown, the horrors of the ‘new normal’, and our society’s immature response to death.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6YYI7nPy-0

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  3. What is essential travel? Who determines what it is? My view is that prior to this corona farce, a great deal of travel was unnecessary. The roads are packed with cars going nowhere in particular, but that is the society that has been developed and encouraged with all of its pollution downside. There is no doubt this infection twaddle has certainly made people reconsider their life-style choices in a big way. Will we ever be the same again? Will people ever stand close again? Never before has an infection been so manipulated to influence attitudes. It is an exercise in mass mind control and that is the scary aspect to it. It seems to me that IS the agenda here: Extinction Rebellion by another route. It has definitely perverted the role of the police and done great damage to its reputation, no longer fighting crime and criminals but enforcing quite stupid rules of 'isolation', 'distancing' and domestic incarceration. A whole nation has been locked-down for what? Just to prove people will accept it without protest? Quite incredible. Meanwhile the effects of the policy are themselves deadly to say nothing of the fact that it has bankrupted the country. Can you imagine the financial consequences for everyone, once, if ever, the supposed threat disappears?

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  4. I'm all for a bit of fun Dom, and in that sense this knob event is probably just that but we are in very strange media times and the BBC is central to that, continually pushing government the government agenda, never challenging it. As we have seen MSM across the western world reads from an identical script. The BBC in the case of Syria has been proved to convey falsified information. I'm sure after a diet of doom and gloom, the BBC always ends on a light hearted story. This falls into that category. It falls into the category of "we are all about to die, but hell we can still have fun and eat knobs to our heart's content as long as we do it on video." The whole country has been mesmerised not by a real threat but by the propaganda surrounding it making seventy million people afraid of one another. Meanwhile the BBC fails completely to address the topic of unhealthy eating that kills far more than this virus and threatens to bankrupt the NHS from diabetes alone. Eating as many 'knobs' as possible, and I'm sure there is no need for me to explore the subliminal messaging here, may be just fun, but it also does nothing to address the very real issue of obesity, in fact might be seen as encouraging it whilst distracting from the sinister agenda we are witnessing. Who would ever guess the British people would accept police violently arresting people for merely innocently talking to one another? We have certainly entered a new and very dangerous era when a whole population can be forced to remain in their homes and not go out on pain of fine or imprisonment.

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  5. People are blissfully unaware of how they have been brainwashed to view the world and its threats in a particular way. There is no rational basis for the way in which we are told to respond to one issue, whilst ignoring another. How is it for example, 5G could be rolled out nationally with absolutely no assessment of its possible/likely damage to health and nature? Is it coincidence that the two are running parallel? Spot on Susan. We could draw similar parallels with TB, AIDS, gastrointestinal and other diseases that apparently no one gives a damn about.

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  6. Of course Tim, and it's good to hear the opinions of others.
    I just try to keep my general outlook and FB posts positive and/or interesting for others to see and read.
    I get infomation from several news sources and will always see the Beeb as a good middle-ground deliverer, I do get drawn into discussions on certain subjects but you know my thoughts on conspiracies and brainwashing, it just doesn't interest me sorry

    No problem Dom. Ideas are free. I have never had a problem with people expressing a different opinion to me. Everyone has the right to accept or reject whatever idea is floated. This principle of 'freedom of speech' that in theory we all extol, is definitely being attacked which should alarm us, as is the right to gather peacefully to protest unjust laws or actions. We have become so accustomed to having these freedoms from harassment and arrest for just doing ordinary things, let alone challenging ones, that we have become blasé about them. This Corona fraud, for fraud is what it is, has proved basic rights and freedoms can be removed by edict of the Executive and no one bats an eyelid. What if the restrictions become a permanent feature on the pretext some bug or other might re emerge? What if more and more protesters or even just people trying to exercise their right to move and work freely are arrested and imprisoned for doing so? What if people are Sectioned under Mental Health Acts (you might have noticed the required doctors has been reduced to one) for taking a different view? What happens when the national debt and inflation plus three million unemployed becomes unsupportable, causing civil unrest. All these things are in the pipeline and have been created by an insane, irrational reaction to a bug that was intentionally put out there. I'm glad you don't agree with me. It might adversely affect your admirable positive approach to life if you did. lol

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  7. Lidl's staff have taken on a new 'traffic warden' persona, in common with other Supermarkets, and seem to enjoy their new found ability to order customers around. Supermarkets have taken on a Disney-like character of one-way systems, in and out doors, floor markings, barriers, screens, hand-disinfection, masks, car park queues and helpful announcements, assuring this is all for our own safety. Much of what is being recommended or enforced is without any scientific backing. It is largely just psychological posturing and an excuse for staff to feel justified in telling others what to do. It is a phenomenon common to petty officialdom, more seriously evidenced by the police in multiple instances. Of course the current state of confusion over what is and isn't allowed and the increased fines that appear to be now arbitrarily available to policemen and women, has far more serious implications. But returning to Lidls and supermarkets generally, the irrational and inconsistent application of hygienic precautions is too apparent. Some wear masks, others do not. Same applies to rubber gloves. Some appear quite paranoid about maintaining the obligatory two metres distancing (I have been forcefully ordered back as if I was pointing a gun) whilst others, quite understandably pack shelves cheek by jowl next to customers. When the epidemic was in its infancy, and potentially more dangerous, there were no screens, now it is in its decline, they and other measures have appeared everywhere. One checkout girl behind her screen, nevertheless thought it wise to wear a face mask and apply disinfectant to her hands between serving each and every customer. I was tempted to warn her of the health dangers this imposed to both lungs and skin but decided this would probably be resented or ignored so desisted.

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  8. 2. One example of irrationality: pastries previously open are now placed in paper bags whilst bread and other bakery products are not. To a degree this might be considered sensible to protect them from hand or droplet infection. However what is not sensible is the edict that customers are not even allowed to touch the bags without purchasing them. Twice whilst checking the contents I have been ordered by different employees not to do so. When asked why, the only explanation : "Bugs". Of course the likely transfer of a bug from a hand to another person from the exterior of a bag is beyond computationally remote. Even if were possible, it would mean the same rule would have to apply to all items on the shelves. Yet this did not stop the employees enforcing the company's stupid rule. This same employee earlier felt it necessary to approach three people outside the store standing on the pavement to 'move along' or the 'police would complain'. All this in an area where despite the obvious exaggeration of the statistics, only one in a thousand population, has been diagnosed with the resultant illness of coronavirus, and these of a very specific susceptible group. What lessons can we draw from this? Government fear propaganda, ably disseminated by the BBC and other media, has been completely effective, fundamentally changing people's attitudes and behaviour. We shall have to see whether such behavioural changes, such as standing two metres apart, is retained after the episode is declared over if it is (the government has just announced a continuation until October!) or if community suspicion becomes a permanent feature. The willingness of people to be bamboozled and frightened, is itself frightening, because if it is so easy, to what other strictures and limitations might they not be susceptible? Will the same tactics be used to enforce vaccination, identity cards, work or freedom passes, personal chipping, forced hospitalisation or incarceration without due process, the removal of children from the family home on the pretext of infection, reducing the care of the elderly for the same reason? Sadly many these things have happened already without an outcry. The Supermarkets, their empty shelves and ridiculous rules, are just a small taste of what is to come unless people stop their hysteria and start thinking rationally.END

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