Have there been ANY deaths from Covid in the UK?
Even the professional body representing Pathologists has, apparently, no idea!
Following from: https://www.outersite.org/who-has-died-from-covid/
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Who Has Died From COVID?
A year ago, the president of the Bulgarian Pathology Association declared “No one has died from the coronavirus”. Are we any the wiser today?
In an attempt to clarify the situation, I tried to find some information on the Royal College of Pathologists’ website. As you will see from the following correspondence, currently there is no post-mortem data on COVID related deaths in the UK available to the public, although the College is considering my request.
From: Clive Menzies clive@clivemenzies.co.uk
Sent: 11 July 2021 11:43
To: info info@rcpath.org
Subject: COVID-19 POST-MORTEM PORTAL AND RESULTS
Hi
I’ve visited your website to access data on COVID-19 post-mortem results but it appears one has to be a member of the Royal College of Pathologists to access any reports.
https://www.rcpath.org/profession/coronavirus-resource-hub/covid-19-post-mortem-portal.html
Do you provide any information to the wider public? If so, please would you send me the data on COVID related post-mortem results from 23rd March 2020 to the present date.
This is clearly a matter of significant public interest and should be in the public domain.
Thanks
Clive
On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 10:24 +0000, Samantha Jayaram wrote:
Dear Clive
Thanks for your email.
The portal was set up at the start of the pandemic with the aim of collating post mortem reports from our members from the relatively small amount of post mortems that were undertaken on patients who had died from suspected COVID-19 or where a post mortem had been requested by the family.
The portal was developed as a means to build a database of information to help inform the treatment of COVID-19 patients and research about the disease. As such, we will not be releasing the reports publicly.
Kind regards
Samantha
From: Clive Menzies clive@clivemenzies.co.uk
Sent: 13 July 2021 11:57
To: Samantha Jayaram Samantha.Jayaram@rcpath.org
Subject: Re: FW: COVID-19 POST-MORTEM PORTAL AND RESULTS
Hi Samantha
This is highly unsatisfactory.
We are constantly told that we are in the midst of a lethal pandemic of unprecedented proportions and yet burial and cremation statistics across the country fail to reveal any abnormal “spike” in deaths throughout 2020.
Furthermore, no post-mortems across Europe had revealed deaths from covid alone, as of 2nd July 2020, according to the president of the Bulgarian Pathology Association.
Our freedoms, economy and way of life have been severely disrupted and yet, the RCP is not prepared to release information to the public to make informed choices in relation to the threat of COVID versus the increasingly apparent damage from the experimental “vaccines”. See the MHRA’s own website.
As a public body, are you not obliged to release such information, particularly as it is anonymised on receipt by the RCP?
Regards
Clive
On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 11:22 +0000, Samantha Jayaram wrote:
Dear CliveThe Royal College of Pathologists is a professional membership organisation with charitable status. More information about the College can be found here.
As I mentioned in my earlier email, the majority of patients who have died from COVID-19 will not have had a post-mortem as a death a certificate will have been issued.
I can enquire what the plans are to collate the post-mortem reports we do have and release more widely but as you have identified, any plans do this would be on anonymised basis.
Kind regards
Samantha
From: Clive Menzies clive@clivemenzies.co.uk
To: Samantha Jayaram Samantha.Jayaram@rcpath.org
Subject: Re: FW: COVID-19 POST-MORTEM PORTAL AND RESULTS
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 15:18:09 +0100
Thanks for the prompt and clear response Samantha
I guess there is the question of charities being subsidised by taxpayers and what requirements/obligations they have to those who fund them but that question is beyond my current level of competence/understanding.
Meanwhile, there are many reports of doctors being coerced/pressured into signing off deaths as due to covid with some bizarre examples quoted. Even the mainstream press is reporting the problem https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9305405/Grieving-relatives-demand-inquiry-loved-ones-wrongly-certified-virus-victims.html
So we’re in a confusing situation. Deaths are being certified as being from or “with” and thus added to the statistics; the UK government has worsened the confusion by relaxing the rules for certification.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/877302/guidance-for-doctors-completing-medical-certificates-of-cause-of-death-covid-19.pdf
When we couple that information with the downgrading of covid-19 as a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) on 19th March 2020, four days before the imposition of the “coronavirus” regulations, the confusion mounts.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid
Post-mortem data from the Royal College of Pathologists may help dispel much of the confusion and add some essential clarity to the situation.
So I look forward to hearing the result of your enquiries.
Regards
Clive
There is no doubt that Britain has been on a totalitarian path for a decade and probably two at least. There is government inside government that must be pushing these things. Dissent, protest and free speech and movement are being targeted as never before. Surveillance of all kinds is being extended. Dangerous medical procedures are being introduced and extended. We are losing the liberal democracy that we once were proud of, to a dark an ominous alternative. Our MPs are a miserable failure and traitor to important principles, that once lost are unlikely to be restored. A grim future awaits everyone unless the population en masse says 'No'.
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ReplyDeleteThere are four new Bill's being quietly but swiftly pushed through parliament right now here in the UK.
Each one of them have diabolical consequences and can only be described as draconian.
Some would say the UK government is becoming a dictatorship, I'd argue this point and say it was always a dictatorship, but nevertheless it is becoming increasingly clear that this is exactly what we have now.
Here are some of the implications these Bill's will have on the public:
1. The criminalization of protest with hefty fines and jail time
2. The criminalization of living in a veichle, with hefty fines and jail time.
3. Mandating the use of an experimental gene therapy product for those working in care, those that wish to visit those in care and additional service staff requires to maintain care homes.
4. The criminalization of whistleblowing and those that facilitate it
5. The criminalization of publishing information that does not fit the narrative of the current Government.
A dangerous framework is being built to ensure all of us are stripped of our rights to live and speak freely.
I initially would of argued that these Bill's are little more than fear mongering to keep people on their toes, but I'm beginning to believe that actually we have gone passed that stage, I believe this Government is laying the necessary foundations for what's to come.
We are at the precipice of a new world; a world driven by IOT and AI. With every living thing accounted for. Every move we make will be another piece of data on the mainframe, another variable in an evolving AI driven algorithm.
This algorithm will calculate potential risks in advance and according, keeping everyone in line. This new world will be described and sold as utopia, but as any sane mind knows, utopia and dystopia are indistinguishable in reality.
You need to pay attention, think about what World you want for your children, your grandchildren?
And if you think this is a political party specific problem, you dont get what is going on at all. This is a bipartisan issue, this is a government issue, this is a global issue.
Keep playing the fool, and you will be fooled. This I assure you.
Peace, love and come to the park on sunday at 10am for sunshine, chit-chat and laughter. 🥰
All government policy seems to turn on the statistics relating to Covid 'CASES'. It is therefore very important to understand how these are defined and how the numbers are generated. No one seems to ask these very fundamental question or challenge the reliability and voracity of the figures, which are used to justify all the unprecedented measures, many of which have no scientific purpose or value. The formal definition is given below and provides such a wide variety of qualifying conditions, the question arises as to whether the figures produced by it really is a reliable guide to actual disease or community risk. This has been an issue from the beginning, namely doubt in relation to what extent SARS Cov-2 has really caused death or disease, as distinct from a whole range of other causes? Also whether the general population was at the level of risk projected in government propaganda? Clearly and indisputably it wasn't and eighteen months of lock-down was quite unnecessary. It is now widely accepted that PCR and Lateral Flow tests bear no relationship to actual disease symptoms. It is therefore irrational to the point of insanity to base policy on them. Current experience also proves that despite government assurances, vaccination prevents neither later onset of the disease or infectivity to others whilst causing over a thousand related deaths and almost a million notified adverse effects. The public has been terrified by inaccurate information and is currently totally confused by conflicting guidance, whilst no one it seems is concerned by the devastating economic, health, education and travel consequences of this insane policy.
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True in that all we see are a rise in cases. There is no data presented as to what age groups are supposedly infected and who are showing serious symptoms. Details of the data are a closely guarded secret. The intention is to inject fear into those who are not vaccinated. B&NES Deaths remain low: 3 deaths since the 10th of March, whilst B&NES cases have peaked at 278 per day on 15th July -and has now dropped below 23 per day. Unvaccinateds are likely the cause of rise in cases, as are pinged contacts who are assumed infected. Then there are the enormous number of tests being urged onto the public – whether or not they have symptoms (false positives). Boots Chemists on High Street in Twerton have a sign on their door saying, “Free rapid Covid-19 tests for people without symptoms”! If you have no symptoms, you might still be a false positive. Asymptomatics ought not to test. Test only if you have symptoms and then with a PCR test. Lateral flow tests are notoriously ineffective. The Pharmeceutical Journal: people with confirmed COVID‐19, antigen tests correctly identified COVID‐19 infection in an average of 72% (ranging from 34% to 88%) of people with symptoms, compared with 58% of people without symptoms.
Hi Mark, Yes weird world ain't it? I always thought this was an orchestrated event from its Wuhan beginnings, through the way it panned out, and now as they try every trick in the book to keep it going. I think it was essentially US contrived exercise, probably to deflect from all the serious Democrat Pizzagate crap and more important, get rid of Trump who seriously threatened the deep state, but Britain had to tow the line, with Johnson in the cross hairs, as Cummings has proved. (What a scum bag he is?) Then for good measure throw in Prince Andrew and 'Prince' Harry, Epstein, Assange, and you have the makings of a rich fruit cake. As always the problem of pinning the thing down to what has been called the 'controlling mind'. Who are the people behind the scenes pulling the strings? Cummings even admitted that within days of Johnson getting the PM job they were plotting how to remove him! There are a few chosen in strategic positions, Commissioner Dick being one. You only have to look at the Manchester Arena bombing to see how the Secret Services not only failed at every level, but also I believe, was deeply implicated in it. I mention that one of many such, because the Covid thing is just a continuation of using psychological terror to achieve policy objectives. You only have to see the raft of repressive measures that are going through Parliament to see where this is heading, yet of course people are far too distracted by a relatively insignificant bug, to realise or object. And as for that Starmer fellow, I think he is clearly under control and kept in line. Of course you are right that they have thought up ways to get 18+ people vaccinated ("You won't have a social life else") even though there is absolutely NO epidemiological reason for it. (For females of child bearing age it is positively dangerous) Why is the government so mind-set on vaccination and endless repeats, when it doesn't even secure freedom of movement. What a hoax! Hope you keep healthy and safe and BS resistant. Regards, Tim
ReplyDeleteSorry to hear an acquaintance of such long standing has been so brainwashed he has lost his reason. Just look at his logic: He must believe the jab affords protection and prevents infection or he wouldn't pressure you to have it; yet the fact that he feels threatened by un-jabbed you must mean he doesn't. Is he protected by the jab or not that is the question? I'm not sure that this is even the problem. I think it is more about the overpowering need people seem feel to make others CONFORM. The dirty looks you get when you don't wear a face nappy despite the scientific FACT it is not only quite pointless but that not in a single case has it been shown to have provided any protection. People, including children outrageously, have been taught to be neurotic and they now find it hard not to be. Regards.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry to hear of the experience of your 30 year old manager but the fact that she had had the vaccination obviously raises the question how she contracted the adverse symptoms and whether this was caused by the jab itself? At the very least it did not protect her. Fourteen hundred deaths and nearly a million reported adverse effects, itself a wild underestimate, following the jab are not small numbers so it could well have been. Flu always been potentially dangerous as previous outbreaks have proved but whether this is linked to much later medical conditions, though not unreasonable, is far more tenuous. However having such, why not an analogous long term effect from an experimental gene therapy that these 'vaccines' undoubtedly are? Both the experimental production of the virus, with its tell-tail four spikes proving it was made in a lab, and the subsequent mass production and promotion of an un-certified 'vaccine', with all its pre-planning, are worrying indicators - of yes - conspiracy!
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