Why lockdowns are the wrong policy - Swedish expert Prof. Johan Giesecke
•Apr 17, 2020
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LOCKDOWN TV @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfN2JWifLCY&lc=Ugz5G9YbtLZPCgycEKd4AaABAg.97jWunrri3X97orsCmeNcs
That was one of the more extraordinary interviews we have done here at UnHerd. Professor Johan Giesecke, one of the world’s most senior epidemiologists, advisor to the Swedish Government (he hired Anders Tegnell who is currently directing Swedish strategy), the first Chief Scientist of the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, and an advisor to the director general of the WHO, lays out with typically Swedish bluntness, why he thinks: - UK policy on lockdown and other European countries are not evidence-based - The correct policy is to protect the old and the frail only - This will eventually lead to herd immunity as a “by-product” - The initial UK response, before the “180 degree U-turn”, was better - The Imperial College paper was “not very good” and he has never seen an unpublished paper have so much policy impact - The paper was very much too pessimistic - Any such models are a dubious basis for public policy anyway - The flattening of the curve is due to the most vulnerable dying first as much as the lockdown - The results will eventually be similar for all countries - Covid-19 is a “mild disease” and similar to the flu, and it was the novelty of the disease that scared people. - The actual fatality rate of Covid-19 is the region of 0.1% - At least 50% of the population of both the UK and Sweden will be shown to have already had the disease when mass antibody testing becomes available
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Tim Veater Coup was a possibility I floated some weeks ago when for some reason the DoE was flown back to Windsor and Charles hid away in the North of Scotland. It's all very strange. They are certainly keeping Johnson out of the way for longer than necessary. He clearly wasn't following the agreed line at first. Raab's role, half Jewish and studied in Palestine/Israel, I have wondered about. Parliament dispatched and dysfunctional. Country on lock-down, meetings banned. Soldiers on the streets. Police acting like Stazi. MI5/6 in charge of the Cabinet Office and Civil Service. Economy in melt-down. As I said at the time, it has all the classical signs of a Coup, even if it isn't.
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ReplyDeleteThe above reaction directed at David Campbell here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypsUIh41xUw NOT Giesecke
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