Friday, 18 August 2017

Barcelona Terror Attack Questions



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There will be many more questions than the few I pose here. As usual I am limited for time and space, not to mention factual details from other than the unquestioning media sources. 

Perhaps I should summarise them before I set off on this brief discussion of a few of them. Sadly I cannot provide satisfactory answers. So:


  • why was it that the male and female couple - Mr Mouncey from Hull and Miss Walton from Lincoln - were both used separately, by newspaper and BBC sources as principal witnesses?
  • why are the witnesses used by the media so often attractive young women?
  • what caused the loud "bangs", apparently with elapse of time in between? Is it reasonable to suggest that this was created from impacting people only?
  • the driver of the van escaped on foot apparently under the gaze of police on scene. A police commander states the only reason he wasn't shot was because of a danger of hitting members of the public. Further another van was found abandoned 80 miles north which it is claimed was the getaway vehicle. Is this all credible?
  • yet again we have a "thoughtful terrorist" helping investigators by leaving his identity documents inside the hired van. This identified Driss Oukabir, 28, as the culprit. Unfortunately, seeing the circulated pictures he handed himself in and claimed it must have been his younger brother who stole his documents to hire the van. Is this is a familiar indicator of a set-up that has not quite gone according to plan?
  • The younger brother now being sought is 18-year-old Moussa Oukabir shown here:
  • Note familiar poses and images from previous city attackers designed to create a certain impression?



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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/police-identify-suspect-behind-barcelona-11006389

  • Here he is the same day as being clearly identified as the terrorist by the New York Daily News video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjQQHApvZIY Shades of JFK and Lee Harvey Oswald not to mention the Tsarnaev brothers?
  • The younger brother now being sought is 18-year-old Moussa Oukabir shown here:


Moussa Oukabir, 18, is being hunted as the suspected van driver


  • Although there are reports of gunmen and a hostage situation subsequent to the main attack, I can find no information on this or what happened. In any event how does this tie in with the young 18 year old alleged driver of the attack vehicle?





Here are two almost identical accounts in two British local newspapers representing areas from which the two witnesses come - Hull and Lincoln. 

Rather coincidentally, in view of what must have been thousands witnessing the event, his girlfriend was also employed by the BBC to be the witness of choice for their top story report and interview on the one o'clock news on Friday 18th August, 2017. 

Why was it that different media outlets used just these two people independentently? Some might think that arriving just an hour before the incident (for Mr Mouncey's birthday) and leaving immediately after is just a tad strange.

 He refers two TWO large "bangs". A question that obviously arises what would have caused these? The van apparently ploughed into people, and although deadly in its effect, it it is unlikely to make a "bang" unless hitting something very solid, and then only once. So what were these two loud bangs to which he refers?

This image of the stationary van, though seriously damaged at the front, proves it did not hit any solid object on its route. The reported "bangs" therefore remain something of a mystery.


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It should be noted that in one of the few variations in the two reports, the Hull Mail quotes Mr Mouncey as saying he heard a loud "crash" NOT  a "bang" - a small but significant variable in an otherwise almost identical  report.

In this BBC interview here the witness says on being asked about "the bangs" he had referred to, that he thought it was the sound of the van running into the people. "Yes I thought that was what it was" he says. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-40968496/barcelona-attack-eyewitness-van-was-10-feet-from-me  I would question whether loud bangs heard from some distance away, would have been caused by this source.


From Lincolnshire Live here: http://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/lincoln-news/people-were-running-screaming-lincoln-345333


Nick Mouncey, 28, was visiting the Spanish city as a surprise birthday trip from his girlfriend.


He said the commotion started when he heard a loud bang.
He said: "We were sat in a cafe bar about fifty yards from where it all happened. We were just sat having a glass of wine and relaxing and we heard this huge bang.
"There was then a wall of people running and screaming towards us from where the van crashed.
Nick Mouncey and his girlfriend, Stephanie Walton, who were caught in the Barcelona Terror attack
“We all ran off into a local cafe and they kept people inside. We were there for a couple of minutes and eventually went back into the street and I heard another big bang.
“It was a bit more scary and this time they closed all the shutters when we went back in the cafe. They then opened the back door of the cafe to get people out and we left there.”
Mr Mouncey added that he and his girlfriend, Stephanie Walton, have not left their hotel since the attack, on what was supposed to be a holiday to remember.
He added: "It was actually my birthday yesterday when it happened and my girlfriend had booked the trip as a surprise for me. It’s a surprise I’ll never forget.
“We had walked across the market bit where it happened an hour before and were planning on going to the Hard Rock, where the van went, just when it happened. If it was five minutes later we could have been there.
“We haven’t really left the hotel now we are back. We are flying back tomorrow and it’s obviously been very edgy since.”
There was a second terror attack yesterday in the country at the coastal resort of Cambrils.
Five terrorists were also shot dead by police after ramming people in the city.

This from the Hull Daily Mail here: http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/hull-mans-barcelona-attack-horror-344851
A man from Hull has described seeing people “screaming and fleeing” after a terrorist drove a van into crowds of people in Barcelona.
At least 13 people were killed and dozens wounded when the van was driven into crowds on Las Ramblas on Thursday afternoon, in what Spain’s Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy has described as a “jihadist attack”
Nick Mouncey, from Willerby, was in Barcelona as a surprise birthday trip from his girlfriend when he heard a loud crash.
“We were sat in a café bar about fifty yards from where it all happened,” he said. “We were just sat having a glass of wine and relaxing and we heard this huge bang.
“There was then a wall of people running and screaming towards us from where the van crashed.
“We all ran off into a local café and they kept people inside. We were there for a couple of minutes and eventually went back into the street and I heard another big bang.
“It was a bit more scary and this time they closed all the shutters when we went back in the café. They then opened the back door of the café to get people out and we left there.”
Mr Mouncey, 28, who now lives in Lincoln, said he and his girlfriend, Stephanie Walton, have not left their hotel since the attack, on what was supposed to be a holiday to remember.
“We just flew out yesterday morning and had only been there for about an hour," he said.
"It was actually my birthday yesterday when it happened and my girlfriend had booked the trip as a surprise for me. It’s a surprise I’ll never forget.
“We had walked across the market bit where it happened an hour before and were planning on going to the Hard Rock, where the van went, just when it happened. If it was five minutes later we could have been there.
“We haven’t really left the hotel now we are back. We are flying back tomorrow and it’s obviously been very edgy since.”
Three people have been arrested so far in connection to the attacks. Five people wearing fake suicide belts were shot dead in a related attack later on in the evening.

Meanwhile a Northern Ireland report has this attractive witness who happens to be the Dublin Live Editor reporting on the event. Note the repeat of the shutters and reference to the two armed men at the restaurant about which further details are hard to come by. Were they captured? Was there a shoot-out? Were there any casualties?
From: http://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/belfast-news/co-armagh-womans-video-shows-13492941
Brave Armagh native and Dublin Live Editor Alana Fearon
This video shows a Co Armagh woman describing the horror as dozens of people have been injured after a truck ploughed into a crowd of people in Barcelona.
Brave Alana Fearon was on holidays in Barcelona when the horrific incident happened, the Irish Mirror reports .
The Dublin Live Editor and Armagh native was rushed into a restaurant where the shutters were pulled and the premise went into lockdown.
Two armed men have reportedly stormed a restaurant in Barcelona just minutes after a van ploughed into pedestrians in the Spanish city.
DublnLive.ie editor and Irish Mirror journalist Alana said: said: "Police came from all angles and took everybody into shops.
"We just saw lots and lots of tourists running down La Rambla, which is obviously the busiest area in Barcelona.
"We thought that initially that it was pickpockets, because we had been warned and we thought police were coming after them.
"We saw up to 13 police vans, riot police, flying past us in vans. Doors open, rifles. We were sitting at one of the bars in the middle of the strip.
"Everyone was asking 'what happened?' There was no ambulances initially. We didn't understand what happened. A police car came up.
"A police man with a megaphone was hanging out the front of the door and telling everyone to get inside.
"We were put inside the bar where we're staying and the shutters were put down and everyone was very upset.
"We were initially very, very scared as we were supposed to be in Placa de Catalunya.
"That's where the airport bus goes from, so it would have been a very busy square. But we decided to sit on and get a taxi so we didn't go up to it.

The Melbourne woman at three recent terrorist attacks

"AN Australian woman caught up in the Barcelona attack has revealed how it was the third time she has cheated death in a terror incident this year. Julia Monaco, 26, from Melbourne, was in a shopping centre with pals when the van ploughed through a crowd on Las Ramblas yesterday."

Julia Monaco, 26, was caught up in three terror attacks in as many months
Julia Monaco, 26, was caught up in three terror attacks in as many months
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4272384/aussie-woman-26-who-escaped-barcelona-terror-was-caught-up-in-london-bridge-notre-dame-attacks/  LINKEDIN




From: https://twitter.com/juliaandmonaco?lang=en

Obviously a socially aware person concerned about American politics:

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    By the way, fuck these nazi motherfuckers.
  2. Well this gave me a good lil lol after being truly sickened by the tiki torch holding losers. And we're sure it's 2017?"



From: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/barcelona-terror-attack-manchester-arena-bombing-survivor-chris-pawley-cheats-death-in-las-ramblas_uk_5996e576e4b0a2608a6bc495

Barcelona Terror Attack: Manchester Arena Bombing Survivor Chris Pawley Cheats Death In Las Ramblas


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"Writing on Facebook, he said: “Just to let everyone know me and Corey are OK, getting a lot of messages. It’s crazy here, the shops have put all their shutters down and the army is out but hope everyone is OK who’s been injured!”
"Of the attack in Manchester in May in which 22 people lost their lives, Pawley recalled he had just exited the arena when the bomb went off. He added: “We were so, so lucky. So lucky we managed to escape unhurt.”





6 comments:

  1. Dear Claude, It succinctly sums up many of my reservations. Unfortunately I have wearied of highlighting them in these repeat scenarios that may be fraudulent on a number of levels right up to who and what really is "ISIS". I find the uniform and sycophantic reaction by the media sickening. As usual, as I demonstrated in my superficial piece, different papers carry virtually identical artical without indicating the obvious common source, whether it be news agency such as Reuters or government or mixture of both. How can the different jounalists claim credit for them? As soon as I saw individuals in the same couple being used independently by press and BBC I detected something very fishy. I and others have highlighted the frequency with which "eye witnesses" just happen to be chosen for their looks or are otherwise suspiciously connected to news organisations or government. The "loud bangs" this couple report are not explained by the circumstances and haven't been. It suggests to me a story of events that was designed for events that did not actually occur for some reason - maybe connected to that explosion in Alcanar. Incidentally this in itself raises many unanswered questions. The mushroom cloud that was produced indicates a substantial explosion that does not accord with the official explanation ("accumulation of gas????) yet the LPG cylinders are unharmed? Then a second explosion that causes the injuries? None of this makes any sort of sense. Then of course there is the central issue of the Oukabir brothers - Driss 28 and Moussa 17/18. It seems to me a replication of the Tsarnaev/Boston scenario circumstantially pointing to the same authors - clearly not ISIS in that instance although that was the claim. Driss by virtue of the familiar "documents left in the van trick" was clearly framed and on that basis his face circulated immediately in all outlets - again a familiar ploy from Kennedy assasination on. However it looks as if he saved his life by giving himself up to police not involved in the deception. However this immediately fingered his younger brother with a hardly credible story. Would the van firm have been taken in by such a young man with documents that didn't match him? Anyway what comments about him that have appeared do not suggest he was a terrorist by nature or persuasion. Yet still he was gunned down on the flimsiest of grounds. We do not know what the actual circumstances were for the crash. Were they being chased by a police vehicle and in fear of their lives. The one video I have seen is an outrageous shooting of an unarmed man who could equally be interpreted as giving himself up to police. That is not how the press interpret it however. Nor is there any suggestion that they were armed in anyway other than the frankly ludicrous "imitation suicide vests". Not content with now eliminating five youths - Moussa Oukabir, 17, Mohammed Hychami, 23 and Said Aallaa, 19, Omar Hychami, Mohammed’s brother, and Houssaine Aouyaaquoub. The last is presumed to be a family member of Younes Aouyaaquoub, who is now the third person accused of driving the van, and who remains on the run. I must stop there, but sufficient enough to cast doubt on the whole official story and point to dark forces in all these European attacks whose purpose is deeply suspect. Regards, Tim.

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  2. The article referred to is here: http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-is-behind-the-barcelona-and-cabril-attacks-can-we-believe-the-official-reports/5604719

    Who Was Behind the Barcelona and Cambrils Attacks? Can We Trust the Official Reports? Update

    By Prof Michel Chossudovsky
    Global Research, August 19, 2017

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  3. Video of police shooting here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAzqndz9bvs

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  4. Claimed original video by Dogan Peri here: https://twitter.com/doganperi?lang=en

    http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/crime/son-of-norwich-nightclub-owner-jailed-for-fight-in-city-street-1-893776

    https://www.instagram.com/doganperi/?hl=en

    http://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/4509917.Dogan_s_on_TV_to_prove_he_s_not_so_dumb/
    "The family is no stranger to the television, having appeared in another lifestyle television reality show, Flash Families, on ITV three years ago."

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  5. MELBOURNE woman at THREE terrorist events: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/barcelona-attack-woman-las-ramblas-london-bridge-paris-julia-monaco-shopping-australian-melbourne-a7899386.html?cmpid=facebook-post

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  6. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/spain-issues-arrest-warrant-for-israeli-prime-minister-benjamin-netanyahu-over-2010-gaza-flotilla-a6736436.html

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