Jean-Pierre Raffarin, a former conservative prime minister who now heads the Senate's foreign affairs committee tweeted: "Everything is being done to trigger a war of religions." Source: BBC
So since I revealed the fact that ISIS claimed responsibility THE DAY BEFORE the incident, the French authorities now admit they DID have prior information, as per. this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/28/second-normandy-attacker-was-on-security-register
"France’s security services said they had received an alert from abroad and a photograph of an individual – later identified as Abdel Malik Nabil Petitjean – but had no idea of his name or where and when he would strike. As a result, they were unable to link the information to the 19-year-old from Aix-les-Bains in the Savoie region of eastern France who was put on the Fiche S (S List) security register less than a month ago for attempting to travel to Syria."
"France’s security services said they had received an alert from abroad and a photograph of an individual – later identified as Abdel Malik Nabil Petitjean – but had no idea of his name or where and when he would strike. As a result, they were unable to link the information to the 19-year-old from Aix-les-Bains in the Savoie region of eastern France who was put on the Fiche S (S List) security register less than a month ago for attempting to travel to Syria."
Church of Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray, Near Rouen, Normandy, France. Why this particular church and location?
Surely not for the twin vertical vents and tower pyramidal roof?
WIKIPEDIA HAS THIS ON THE EVENTS:
"On 26 July 2016, in Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray, Normandy, northern France, two Islamic State terrorists killed 85-year-old priest Jacques Hamel[1][2] (born 1930 in Darnétal[3]) of the church of Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray, during Mass. Two nuns and two churchgoers were taken hostage, in addition to the priest.[1] The attackers were shot and killed by Rouen's BRI police as they left the church.[4]
"At approximately 09:45 on 26 July 2016, a priest, two nuns and two churchgoers were taken hostage, by armed attackers, in the church of Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray, Normandy, France, during Mass.[4] Police were alerted after one of the nuns managed to escape from the church.[5]
"The nun told media that the attackers spoke Arabic and had a knife, they had forced the priest to kneel. When the priest was attacked the nun had run outside without the attackers noticing.[5] Police later said the priest's throat had been slit.[1] A hostage was critically injured, having had his throat slit,[6]while the other 3 hostages escaped largely unhurt.[1] At approximately 11:00, both attackers were shot dead by Rouen's BRI police as they left the church.[6][4]
"The Telegraph reported that the attackers had shouted "Daesh" before slitting the priest's throat.[7] Within hours of the attack, the IS-linked Amaq news agency, said that the attack was carried out by two "soldiers" from the group.[4] Police raided a house in the suburb after the attack, following which, prosecutors said one person was arrested.[4] The incident is being investigated by anti-terrorism judges.[1][4]"
"French news channel BFM TV reported that one of the attackers, Adel Kermiche, 19,[8] who lived in Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray, had twice in 2015 attempted to travel to Syria but had once been returned by Germany and once turned back by the authorities at the Turkish border and, as a result, spent time in a French jail and was released in March 2016.[6] Upon his release, he waselectronically tagged and a curfew was placed on him, requiring him to live at his parents' home, which was near the church, and to leave his house only between 08:30 to 12:30 and 14:00 to 18:00.[1]"
The Daily Mirror has published this image of Adel Kermiche here:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/french-priest-isis-killer-attack-8499196:
Reuters/Dawn (here: http://www.dawn.com/news/1273318) reports as follows "The IS news agency Amaq said two of its “soldiers” had carried out the attack."
"Amaq" it should be noted is a very dubious news agency source, only started in 2014, yet able to be the first to report the fall of Palmyra! It was also the channel through which ISIS claimed the Nice attack as its own. We are not party to the dark forces that are behind these channels as they are hardly transparent. There is a real possibility that they are set up as propaganda organs by the same people behind ISIS itself, arguably a secret operation between the CIA and Mossad with Saudi backing.
Another very dubious news outlet concentrating on Middle East and Jihadist affairs is "Site Intelligence Group" largely funded by organs of the American state. It channeled the ISIS claim also here: https://news.siteintelgroup.com/Jihadist-News/is-amaq-reports-normandy-church-attack-carried-out-by-is-soldiers.html. It's worth checking out but I will reproduce the image below.
'Amaq News Agency of the Islamic State (IS) reported that the attack at the church of Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray in Normandy, France, was carried out by "two soldiers of the Islamic State".
I cannot read or translate Arabic and unfortunately neither can I copy the text into Google translate, but I am assuming this is copied by 'SITE' because it is the claim of responsibility. (No doubt someone will correct me if I am wrong) If I am right however an interesting fact emerges. Please note the date of the announcement - "25/7/2016" - that is ONE DAY PRIOR TO THE ACTUAL ATTACK!
'SITE' has this intro:
- Jihadist News
- Last Updated: July 26, 2016
Addendum 28.7.2016. A friend of mine, BEY HICHAM, fluent in Arabic, has now kindly done a literal translation as follows:
"Namely, a security source told the depths: outlet attack Normandy Church in France, two soldiers of the Islamic state carried out the operation in response to appeals by targeting the crusader alliance countries."
He also paraphrased it as follows: "ISIS We carried out the Attack on church."Yet they do not notice the obvious anomaly. If correct it means that intelligence undoubtedly had prior knowledge of the event, or that alternatively this was part of a fraudulent blunder by those that control 'Amaq'. Those familiar with these contrived events will remember a similar instance in the case of the Paris, Bataclan attack, when even the number of injured was correctly forecast two days before. Coincidence? (BT now has a helpful explanation for the latter here: http://home.bt.com/news/world-news/did-twitter-spambot-predict-the-paris-attacks-two-days-early-11364016926959)
- Also via the Mirror this image claimed to be of shot assailant:
What is located at his unshod feet? Why was he not wearing trainers or shoes?
THE FOLLOWING WAS MY REACTION BEFORE, PERHAPS UNWISELY, I READ THE REPORTS
I am so sick of these orchestrated events, and the multiple lies and layers of deceit that accompany them, I can hardly bring myself to comment any more. But let me say this about this latest alleged outrage. The details conveyed b government may be true but equally they may not. That is the first sad fact proved by previous, so-called 'ISIS terrorist events'.
You will have to read my assessment of the factual evidence of the other events to see why I say this, and come to your own conclusion. I haven't dug deeply into the Rouen event but already there are familiar and worrying indicators of fraud and manipulation.
The first was the announcement that police warned people to stay away and more importantly not film or record anything they might see.
Why would they say that other than a fear that, as in other cases, it is the video that often contributes to an assessment of fraud? If the account put out was accurate, what would there be to fear in recording it?
Next we have the familiar story that the two claimed perpetrators were well known to police and intelligence services with Jihadist sympathies. How many times have we heard this before?
Apparently despite almost unlimited powers, in an extended French state of emergency, such persons are untrackable, uncontrollable? This affords said police and intelligence services the 'lone wolf' - or should that be the LAME wolf? - excuse, for not being able to anticipate or stop the attack.
Despite being 'lone wolves', ISIS quickly, and conveniently you might think, claim responsibility, and links - as in the recent Munich case - are SUBSEQUENTLY found to support the claim.
We might reasonably ask, if these individuals are so well known, including their movements to Syria, why are the home materials only discovered after the event? Surely they would have been visited at home previously, not to mention electronically monitored?
Then there is the theatrical nature of this attack. An elderly priest and nuns taken as hostages, the priests throat cut in front of them! What indeed could be more shocking in a place held sacred by a still predominantly Catholic French population?
Except I would ask, what was the purpose of taking them 'hostage' if not to negotiate something? Or alternatively if the intention was murder and carnage only, why take them hostage? In a hostage situation there is usually negotiation to free the hostages first to ensure they are safe. Where is there evidence of that?
In what circumstance would the two men leave the hostages to be shot, if they were their only guarantee of survival.
Ah you say, these were callous terrorists intent only on maximum murder and self-sacrifice. Why then would they spare the lives of the nuns? Or indeed only injure apparently the second man?
Were there no members of the congregation present? (Reports seem to suggest there were in fact two?) We are told another man was injured. So who was he and how does he fit into the picture?
Then we are told the alarm was raised by a nun who managed to escape. Does that also not sound contrived? How was that possible when there were so few of them?
Ah you say, these were callous terrorists intent only on maximum murder and self-sacrifice. Why then would they spare the lives of the nuns? Or indeed only injure apparently the second man?
Were there no members of the congregation present? (Reports seem to suggest there were in fact two?) We are told another man was injured. So who was he and how does he fit into the picture?
Then we are told the alarm was raised by a nun who managed to escape. Does that also not sound contrived? How was that possible when there were so few of them?
Certainly a whole flotilla and variety of vehicles appears to be on scene within minutes and the whole thing is over with at least three dead persons in not many minutes more. The incident started at 9.45 and was done and dusted, so to speak by 11 am. That's not a hostage situation: more akin to a 'shoot-out'.
And we are told here ( ) that "French Interior Ministry spokesman Pierre-Henry Brandet told France Info radio that the perpetrators have been killed by France's BRI, an elite police anti-crime force, when they came out of the church."
It poses the obvious question how they were able to get to the scene in presumably half an hour say? Where did such a specialist group come from? Where are they based? Even if on permanent stand-by, it still takes time to notify, kit up and transport to a fairly remote destination doesn't it? Unless of course they were already pre-warned, pre-pared, and on station?
Special forces pictured on scene (Source: Mirror) http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/french-priest-isis-killer-attack-8499196:
I have just now read an account by the nun who escaped as reported by the Mirror (see above) as follows:
"Sister Danielle said she fled the parish church in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray, near the northern city of Rouen, as one of the terrorists was slitting the priest's throat.
Another (hooded) boy is arrested. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/french-priest-isis-killer-attack-8499196:
She then raised the alarm by stopping a passing motorist.
Describing the attack, the nun said: “Everyone was saying, ‘Just stop, you don’t understand what you are doing.' But it had no effect.
"They forced us to get on our knees and he [Father Hamel] wanted to defend us. That's when the violence started."
I certainly have no reason to doubt the veracity of her account but it certainly narrows the window of opportunity for the police to arrive doesn't it, because if accurate she only managed to escape AFTER Father Hamel was attacked. So if the attack started at 9.45 she could not have raised the alarm to a passing motorist until sometime after ten presumably, which then had to be conveyed to the police, who were still able to get a specialist armed group there to shoot dead the assailants before eleven. Wow!
There is also the small question of why they allowed her to escape, (it surely could not have escaped their notice?) or made no move to escape before the police arrived.
Yet again the alleged perpetrators are shot dead, or as the preferred term is now - 'neutralised'. That policy was announced by the Minister of the Interior after Paris, so it is not accidental. Nor is it logical. Certainly if an individual, terrorist or otherwise, poses a threat to an armed officer, it is perfectly reasonable to use force, including firearms to stop him. But these two reportedly only had knives. Why would they need to be shot dead?
In any event to have such a policy in place can only be counter productive, as who would not want all the information members of a terrorist organisation could supply?
No it is clear that Government NEEDS these people dead for a reason that can only be suspicious and sinister.
We note how Sarcozy immediately endeavours to make some sort of political capital out of the event, directed at stigmatising all Muslims and refugees as potential miscreants, rather than holding to account those that again apparently failed to target the right people - if such they were - to prevent the attack.
The Financial Times (here https://next.ft.com/content/76e04cc8-5312-11e6-befd-2fc0c26b3c60) reports him as saying in a televised address in early afternoon, “We must be merciless. Legal quibbles, precautions, excuses for an incomplete action are inadmissible.” I am sure we can all see where this is going!
Finally, I and others have shown clear and significant Israeli links to events in Munich, Nice, Brussels and Paris, with the same individuals primed and ready to provide initial video footage. This can only indicate damning foreknowledge, yet this most obvious incriminating association is never mentioned or considered worthy of investigation by the French authorities apparently. This alone should pose a huge red flag to all concerned citizens, over how these events are occurring and being portrayed.
I will refrain at this stage of providing alternative explanations for the events and the accounts of them.
AN UPDATE FROM 'LE FIGARO'
This update (Google translation - http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2016/07/26/01016-20160726LIVWWW00086-prise-d-otage-en-cours-dans-une-eglise-de-saint-etienne-du-rouvray-pres-de-rouen.php) from the French newspaper, timed at 22.00 on the 26.7.2016 (i.e. the same day as incident) includes some new and additional information. (It appears to be based on a videoed presentation by Francois Molins the French Prosecutor on the same day here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Pyhmuw_1Q) I have endeavoured to embolden them for ease of identification as follows:
"What to know in 23 hours
AN UPDATE FROM 'LE FIGARO'
This update (Google translation - http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2016/07/26/01016-20160726LIVWWW00086-prise-d-otage-en-cours-dans-une-eglise-de-saint-etienne-du-rouvray-pres-de-rouen.php) from the French newspaper, timed at 22.00 on the 26.7.2016 (i.e. the same day as incident) includes some new and additional information. (It appears to be based on a videoed presentation by Francois Molins the French Prosecutor on the same day here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Pyhmuw_1Q) I have endeavoured to embolden them for ease of identification as follows:
"What to know in 23 hours
Another strange anomaly I've noticed from the Mirror report which is very hard to explain rationally. The nun manages to escape without being seen by the attackers. We are not told whether she left by the front or back door. Apparently the attackers had entered through the back. But then we are told that the police could not enter the church because the heavy doors were locked. So the question that arises is was the morning mass open to the public or not and would not the main door be open for it? If the report that the police were unable to get in the main entrance it presumably means they did not try the back door or that it too had been locked. However this raises the question as to which route the nun exited and from which door the attackers exited also and were shot doing so apparrently shouting (as with Charlie Hebdo) Allah akbar before they fell victim to the bullets fired at them. Unfortunately seldom are these important details posed or answered.
ReplyDeleteOther possible related events elsewhere.
ReplyDeleteFollowing the Nice terror attack on Bastile Day (14.7.2016) the French Justice Ministry required the city to destroy all CCTV footage! This incomprehensible request was refused and has now given rise to a criminal action by the city against the state, claiming an intention to pervert the course of justice. See: http://vladtepesblog.com/2016/07/21/nice-attack-when-justice-minister-demanded-the-mayor-destroy-24-hours-of-footage/
Little publicised is the fact that on the 20th July, 2016 - less than a week before - three French soldiers lost their lives when there helicopter was shot down over Libya. They were on a dangerous and secretive 'intelligence' mission. See: https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2016/7/20/three-french-officers-killed-in-libyan-helicopter-crash
At least 77 innocent civilians were killed, including many children, by American air-raids on the 18th and 19th July, 2016, described as "a mistake"! See: http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/07/19/us-led-bombings-syria-kill-77-civilians-including-many-children
I ask only how much prominance has been given to these incident on British MSM? Or how the most recent shocking attack on a French peace might be useful in distracting attention from them?
Just stopping by to publish my respects and sympathies to the families of all the people murdered in the recent French and German terrorist atrocities. I urge you all to ignore liars like Tim Veater, who claim to be Christians yet think it's ok to publish hateful dishonest comments about grieving families online before the bodies of their loved ones are even cold.
ReplyDeleteShame on you, Tim. Shame on you.
PS: don't forget to delete this comment in order to suppress my free speech and to avoid me embarrassing and exposing you. (No hypocrisy there, then.)
I'd say; thanks for stopping by, spiky. It is always a good sign when Nazi (NATO) whores, Soros trolls, and schizophrenic rats like you stop by.
DeleteIt simply shows that the blog is good.
Yeah, that must be it, Laika. Excellent research and logic. You must be the brains of the operation.
DeleteI've screenshot it before he inevitably deletes it, lol.
ReplyDeleteWill share this in places he can't delete too. The World needs to know that Tim Veater is a wanker.
http://i.imgur.com/xwGgXO4.png
ReplyDeleteSpiny Norman speaks more sense than Tim Veater does. Tim step away from your computer and go outside. You've lost your marbles
ReplyDeleteThanks for advertising my blog 'Spiny Norman'. (I've got a good idea who you are! At least I don't hide behind multiple pseudonyms) Clearly I've hit the spot with this post or you wouldn't bother sending abusive messages. I will let readers, if there are any, make their own minds up.
ReplyDeleteAbusive? Wow, someone's clearly way too sensitive and thin-skinned for the internet!
ReplyDeleteAnd yeah - I disagreed with you. Ergo, you must have touched a nerve and I must be in on the conspiracy. Blah blah blah. How original. And how logical. Yawn
Oh and yeah, you know who I am - I'm Ricky Dearman, aren't I. As are the other 672 people you've claimed are him.
Anyhoo, as I say, please pass on my respects to the innocent families whose lives you seem intent on destroying in the name of Jesus. In the extremely unlikely event that you ever find the balls to face them in person, that is. I'd love to see you tell them to their faces that they're baby-eating cannibals or that their loved ones were crisis actors just pretending to be blown up by terrorists. I won't hold my breath.
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So since I revealed the above the French authorities now admit they DID have prior information, as per. this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/28/second-normandy-attacker-was-on-security-register
ReplyDelete"France’s security services said they had received an alert from abroad and a photograph of an individual – later identified as Abdel Malik Nabil Petitjean – but had no idea of his name or where and when he would strike. As a result, they were unable to link the information to the 19-year-old from Aix-les-Bains in the Savoie region of eastern France who was put on the Fiche S (S List) security register less than a month ago for attempting to travel to Syria."
At 28.7.2016 via Guardian report (see above) :
ReplyDelete"Petitjean’s identity card was found in Kermiche’s home. Telephone records suggest the pair only met recently, implying the attack was carried out on external orders.
Abdel Malik Nabil Petitjean’s identity card
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Abdel Malik Nabil Petitjean’s identity card. Photograph: AFP/Getty Images
A video on a mobile telephone, found during a search of another S List suspect, showed a young man resembling Petitjean declaring his allegiance to Islamic State but police were reportedly unable to identify him. It took a while after the Normandy attack for police to definitively put the attacker – who had been shot in the face by police – the photograph sent from abroad and the identity card together.
Before Petitjean’s identity was confirmed by DNA tests, his mother Yamina refused to believe her son was involved. “No, no, no. It’s impossible. I know my son, he’s kind. I haven’t created a devil,” she told BFMTV. “He never talked about Islamic State ... we are positive people, we talk about good things ... he’s my baby.”
Mrs May, the Brtish Prime Minister has been qouted as saying, "it was important to stand shoulder to shoulder with France." Now when have I heard that famous phrase before and in what situation?
ReplyDeleteYou are defending Islamic terrorism, the murder, nay execution, of a frail old Priest of The Lord God Almighty? You are saying it is Israel's fault that Islamic terrorists exist? Does it get more depraved than that?
ReplyDeleteUntrue. I am not defending the alleged "Islamic terrorism, the murder or the execution of a frail old priest as you suggest. What I am doing is examining the story objectively and high-lighting very obvious questions. That is quite different. In view of all the misinformation surrounding previous so-called 'terrorist attacks', that is the least I can do, and it behoves all sensible persons to do the same. Are you comfortable with the fact that the event was announced by so-called ISIS the DAY BEFORE? Shouldn't people ask whether the French authorities were pre-warned and prepared but still allowed it to happen? Alternatively that the huge intelligence operation failed to detect what a small American outfit was able to do? (Of course the French Government has made a partial but unconvincing admission regarding it) This and all the other questions I have raised regarding this and other events demand answers. That the government never does, is suspicious in and of itself. The best way we can honour a murdered priest by young 'Muslim terrorists', if such he was, is not to be swept along by government orchestrated mass hysteria - why for these events and not for other equally tragic others? - but by seeking out the truth regarding it.
DeleteIncidentally Roger your Google profile makes no sense and I appear to be your only "follower". "Teacher. Retired. Now living in the UK"? All very strange.
DeleteYour profile is precisely as follows "Gender: other. Employment: Retired. Education: Union Parish School away from school. Currently: UK." Care to expand or clarify?
DeleteWhat are you wanting to know and why should my background matter? I object to the media cover-ups of the ethnic identity of terrorists (muslims naturally) and offenders in general. If I apply for health treatment I am expected to give religion and colour etc. So why not for offenders? Why did the attempted murder of an RAF officer not get in to the news media for over 24 hours? The "system" is in denial and whatever my background I can say how I feel.
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