Veater Ecosan: "The World About Us"

"Plebs omnis plaudit ut me minore sepius audit." TREBLE BELL, COMBE RALEIGH CHURCH, DEVON. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYZWJ-cVwb8

Saturday, 27 February 2016

'Listening In' by 'Prying Eyes'



One law for us and another for you?

What the UK Government wants to be able to do in the Investigatory Powers Bill now under discussion, is to extend its power to intercept private electronic communications. This gives great power to the state and its organs to know about and interfere with, the citizen. 

Although increased state powers are always predicated on the need to protect people and prevent crime, we are now too well aware that governments and their officials are all too capable of acting illegally themselves and of misusing information so obtained. It would be naive not to recognise the links that exist, and always have existed, between those in the know, with either foreign powers and criminal elements. (For more information on how this worked see http://veaterecosan.blogspot.co.uk/2016/02/british-secret-intelligence-1988.html) It is authoritatively claimed that government has always been more interested in preventing leaks of failures, than of investigating the failures themselves.

Further we know from recent past experience, how legislation passed in the wake of terrorist events or for other laudable purposes, has been misused or allowed deeds that were never intended. Cite the use of Terrorism legislation to arrest peaceful protesters or Harassment legislation to target the innocent as just two examples. 

No less than ten pieces of primary terrorism legislation have been passed since the year 2000 (See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_Acts) yet it and the extensive powers of surveillance that already exist in and between nation states, still haven't protected us apparently from the outrages to which we have been subjected, most recently in Paris. Curiously these invariably lead to arguments for greater powers but never an examination why existing ones were ineffective. 

Powers once afforded states, are seldom rescinded, and the inability of the citizen to inquire into how they are being applied, the whole topic wrapped up in a culture of secrecy, means there is effectively no control to prevent misuse. Even in a democracy this is dangerous.
Were government minded to become more authoritarian and repressive than at present constrained, it would of course be a prerequisite. 

If the bill passes into law, will anyone be protected from the listening ears or prying eyes of others with evil intent? 

The following is a document by 'Liberty', in response to the proposals. It can be found here: 
https://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/campaigning/safe-and-sound 

Why is the Draft Investigatory Powers Bill important?

Surveillance powers can play an important role in fighting serious crime. But the current framework fails to provide sufficient safeguards to ensure it is conducted in a necessary, proportionate and accountable way – online and offline.

The Government’s Draft Investigatory Powers Bill is a once in a generation opportunity to shape our laws for the better – however current proposals will make us less safe and less free. And it's not just us saying that. Voices from across the political spectrum have joined internet companies, tech experts and civil liberty campaigners to call for a redraft of the Bill.

That’s why we need you to add your voice to Liberty’s Safe and Sound campaign for a secure and private Britain.

The authorities do a vital job but abuses can and have happened. The Metropolitan police accessed journalists’ phone records, spied on a grieving Baroness Lawrence and her family and infiltrated social and environmental justice groups to the extent that women were tricked into serious relationships – one even having a child with an undercover officer. GCHQ spied on a torture victim and his lawyers challenging MI6 complicity in his kidnap to Gaddafi’s Libya and unlawfully intercepted the communications of human rights organisations including Amnesty International.

We expect the State to obtain a warrant before entering our homes, never mind searching them and taking away our belongings. Why should it be any different when it comes to our communications?

As ever greater amounts of our lives are stored, shared and sent online, a detailed and intimate picture of you can be pieced together – revealing much more than any search through your bedside drawer. Don't we all deserve some basic protections?

These crime-fighting tools can be used in a way that both keeps us safe and respects our privacy – show your support by signing up to Liberty’s Safe and Sound 8 Point Plan today.

1. Judicial warrants

All surveillance requests must be authorised by a judge.

All surveillance requests must be granted a warrant by a judge before that surveillance takes place – including requests to intercept communications, send undercover operatives to spy on people, or hack and access our data.

And what the Home Secretary has touted as “judicial authorisation” in the IP Bill isn’t actually judicial authorisation at all. The Bill creates a new approach involving a “Judicial Commissioner”.

Ministers will continue to authorise warrants before passing them to a Commissioner – and all they’ll have the power to do is “review” the decision. Relegated to little more than glorified rubber-stampers, they’ll only be able to disagree with outrageously unreasonable requests. A huge number of democratic countries require judicial warrants for surveillance – including all the other countries involved in the Five Eyes Alliance; USA, Australia, Canada and New Zealand.

2. Respect our data

No new blanket powers forcing communications companies to store more – and more revealing types – of our data.

The Independent Reviewer of Terrorism, David Anderson, has warned that the case for a host of bulk surveillance powers has not been made. The USA and a number of other European and Commonwealth countries do not compel service providers to retain their customers’ weblogs for inspection by law enforcement, and continuing down this road will place Britain in the company of authoritarian regimes across the world.

Additionally, the track record of internet companies to keep that data safe doesn’t fill us with confidence (for example see the recent hacking of TalkTalk - four people so far have been arrested including some under the age of 16).

3. Targeted surveillance - for a reason

Surveillance should only be conducted for a number of tightly defined reasons i.e. investigating serious crime and preventing loss of life. Strong legal protection should be provided for privileged and confidential material.

There is no convincing evidence that mass surveillance is vital to save lives. Rather, the amount of data currently being collected overwhelms the security services, making us less safe. Surveillance should be conducted for a narrow range of tightly defined purposes i.e. in the targeted investigation of serious crime and other legitimate objectives such as preventing risk to life. However it is currently being used for vague and non-crime related purposes (as recognised in the High Court judgment in Liberty’s challenge to DRIPA with MPs David Davis and Tom Watson).

A targeted approach to surveillance - requests and warrants must target individuals on the basis of suspicion in criminal activity.

Liberty is calling for a targeted, as opposed to mass or 'thematic', approach to surveillance. As revealed by Edward Snowden, the Agencies have claimed powers to intercept and hack entire telecommunications systems meaning billions of innocent communications are routinely intercepted and processed.

The Draft Bill seeks to put these powers on the statute book and expand them - new provisions allow the Agencies to acquire 'bulk personal datasets' and communications on millions of innocent people.

Retention of communications data and surveillance warrants should instead target individuals on the basis of suspicion of involvement in serious crime.

Liberty is currently challenging the present approach of mass, speculative, suspicion-less interception of “external warrants” at the Court of Human Rights.

Strong legal protection for privileged and confidential material

Legislative safeguards providing additional protection for legally privileged communications, journalistic sources and parliamentarians’ correspondence should be enshrined in primary legislation.

4. Transparency and Redress
All surveillance powers should be publicly disclosed and explicit safeguards set out in the IP Bill. There must be improved redress and increased transparency for people who have been spied on.

The IP Bill has introduced an element of transparency by identifying which surveillance powers the Government is using. However, the Bill is light on detail, and fails to provide necessary safeguards to protect the powers from abuse. In fact, the Bill would introduce new imprisonable offences for whistleblowers, preventing injustices becoming public.

Redress mechanisms must also be improved

A person who was the subject of intrusive and targeted surveillance methods must be told when they are no longer under suspicion (unless there is a good reason for maintaining secrecy).

Further, the Investigatory Powers Tribunal (IPT) – which hears legal challenges against the use of surveillance – must be reformed and made more transparent. Currently it isn’t required to hold oral hearings and if it finds against a complainant it can’t give its reasons for doing so. It cannot make a formal declaration, a “declaration of incompatibility”, that legislation violates the Human Rights Act.

The IPT must become more transparent and open to the public. Whilst the IPT remains so shrouded in secrecy, it is impossible to hold the security services to account for human rights abuses. 

5. Use of intercept evidence in court
Intercepted communications should be admissible in criminal trials.

The bar on the admissibility of intercept evidence, if properly obtained via a judicial warrant, in criminal proceedings should be lifted. Why is this vital evidence not used to bring perpetrators to justice?

6. Fair and open international data sharing laws
The arrangements for intelligence sharing of surveillance data between the UK and other countries must be set out in law and available to the public.

Transparent and proportionate arrangements for the sharing of surveillance data between intelligence agencies should be agreed between the UK and foreign States, made publicly available and incorporated into law.

Mutual Legal Assistance Treaties (MLAT) – law enforcement tools governing the exchange of information between countries – should be improved and replace attempts to place extraterritorial obligations on foreign tech firms (as proposed in the Draft Investigatory Powers Bill).

7. Protect our encryption standards

Safeguard our country’s security by protecting - not undermining - encryption standards.

Encryption is vital to the security of our online communications. If we weaken standards to allow Government to get its hands on more of our personal communications, that information is vulnerable to use and abuse by the bad guys too. Do we really want our iMessage communications to be less secure than those of people using the service in other countries?

8. Recognition of the unique threat mass hacking poses to our security
Hacking is a grave privacy intrusion - much more intrusive than “traditional” forms of state surveillance, including interception, and its capacity to undermine device, network and internet security can’t be overstated.

It carries unlimited and untested potential for Government to act against the security and economic interests of its own citizens, whether consciously or otherwise.

The Government's draft legislation would allow mass hacking of devices, affecting potentially millions of innocent users' devices, undermining the safety of us all. Hacking should only be used in extremis as a last resort, and warrants should always specify named suspects or premises.
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Friday, 26 February 2016


Another Israeli Assassination Abroad?


http://samidoun.net/2016/02/breaking-omar-nayef-zayed-assassinated-inside-palestinian-embassy-in-bulgaria/

Palestinian embassy in Bulgaria

February 26, 2016








UPDATE/11:44 am/26 February: Bulgarian media and police sources are reporting that Omar was killed by falling from a high story of the building. They have noted that him being pushed is “not excluded.” “Israeli media have been the first to report explicitly that Omar was ‘assassinated.’ This comes as no surprise. They’re simply the most knowledgeable and honest about the workings of their government and its intelligence agencies,” said Joe Catron of Samidoun.


Omar Nayef Zayed, a former Palestinian political prisoner and escaped hunger striker whose extradition from Bulgaria Israel demanded in December, was found dead this morning inside the Palestinian embassy in Sofia, Bulgaria, where he had sought refuge.


“Omar Nayef Zayed was targeted as a Palestinian, as a struggler, as a former political prisoner,” Charlotte Kates, international coordinator of Samidoun Palestinian Prisoner Solidarity Network, said. “His case, his targeting and his assassination were an attempt to demonstrate that no Palestinian anywhere is safe from the long arms of the Israeli occupation. This is clearly a threat to all Palestinians – especially former prisoners and veterans of the struggle in Europe. We are committed to stand with the family of Omar Nayef Zayed to pursue accountability for those responsible for taking his life and to build the movement for which his life was taken – for a free Palestine.”


The precise physical cause of Omar’s death is not yet clear, but it is clear that the cause of his death is the Israeli state’s vengeance against a Palestinian struggler committed to live free for himself and for all of his fellow Palestinians. Samidoun Palestinian Prisoner Solidarity Network demands an independent autopsy of Omar’s body and a full investigation by Bulgarian and Palestinian officials into the death of Omar. We demand that all those responsible for the targeting of Omar Nayef Zayed and the taking of his life be held fully accountable.


“We hold Israel and its intelligence services, the Palestinian Authority and the Bulgarian government responsible for the killing of Omar Nayef Zayed, whose life was taken as he lived his life, in the struggle for freedom for Palestine,” Mohammed Khatib, a Brussels, Belgium-based member of Samidoun: Palestinian Prisoner Solidarity Network, said. “He was assassinated; he was not protected; and he was constantly threatened and pursued. The Israeli intelligence services have a long history of pursuing and assassinating Palestinians around the world – especially in Europe – targeting young leaders and veteran resisters for assassination and elimination. This outrageous crime happened inside the Palestinian embassy, inside Bulgaria. The killers and those who made this killing possible must be held accountable.”


Zayed, 52, was born in Jenin, in Palestine’s West Bank. He was arrested by occupation forces in May 1986 and sentenced to life imprisonment. After a 40 day hunger strike in 1990, he was transferred to a hospital in Bethlehem where he escaped in May, disappeared and left Palestine.


In 1994, he traveled to Bulgaria. Omar married a Bulgarian citizen and has Bulgarian children; he runs a Palestinian grocery and is well-known in the Palestinian community of Sofia.


On Tuesday, 15 December, the Israeli embassy sent a letter to the Bulgarian Ministry of Justice demanding the extradition of Omar Nayef Zayed, labeling him a “fugitive from justice.”


Omar’s home was raided on Thursday, 17 December. He was not home and his son was arrested for one day. The Bulgarian prosecutor was quoted in Arabic media calling for his imprisonment and quick extradition to Tel Aviv.


Samidoun Palestinian Prisoner Solidarity Network salutes and mourns Omar Nayef Zayed, a former Palestinian political prisoner who struggled all his life for the freedom of Palestine and the Palestinian people. We extend our deepest condolences to the family of Omar Nayef Zayed, in Palestine, in Bulgaria and everywhere, and to the entire movement for the liberation of Palestine, which has had a loving father and husband and a committed struggler for a free Palestine taken away at the hands of those who would see Palestine, and its people, forever imprisoned. We are committed to working in all ways to hold those responsible for his death fully accountable for this vicious crime against the Palestinian people, and to struggle for the freedom – of Palestinian prisoners and of Palestine itself – which Omar Nayef Zayed held so dear.

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"JENIN, (PIC)-- Sources close to the family of the Palestinian martyr Omar al-Nayif published on Sunday a photo for him showing blood on his face. This proves that he was directly targeted during assassination inside the Palestinian embassy in Bulgaria, they added. The photo refuted rumors claiming that there was no blood on his face, and raised questions on the purpose that made certain parties minimize the seriousness of the assassination. Nayif was murdered last Friday in the Palestinian Embassy in Bulgaria’s capital Sofia. Israeli Mossad was accused in the first place. The family of the martyr also accused the Palestinian Authority as well as its Embassy of collusion with the Israeli occupation in assassinating their son. For his part, the Palestinian Ambassador to Sofia said that “Nayif was found with no shooting or beating signs on his body”."

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UPDATE 6.4.2016
From: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=212041329175160&set=gm.217157488653469&type=3&theater

The former Foreign Minister of the Zionist State of Israel has admitted that she murdered scholars in Europe and was protected by MOSSAD for whom she worked. She also admits to having been a prostitute targeting persons in order to record the sex and use for bribery, manipulation or to obtain secrets and cooperation.

"I’d do it again," she said.

Tzipi Livni, former Israeli foreign minister, revealed that she practiced sex with several Arab personalities while working as an agent of Mossad, “in order to engage in sex scandals, to reveal and extract secret information and political concessions in favor of Israel.”

She even confessed to having committed murder in European countries, whose victims were Arab scholars, adding that the Israeli secret service agency Mossad intervened and saved the day.
In a recent meeting with the British newspaper “The Times”, supported by Israeli and Arab press, Livni said she sees “no disadvantage” in using sex and murder for the sake of Israel “. She said she was “proud” of what she did, indicating that she would again resort to the same practices for Israel.
Confessions of Tzipi Livni came in the aftermath of a notice issued by the Chacham Israeli Ari Shaphat, which authorized Israelis “to use sexual practices with enemies in exchange for important information”, claiming that “Jewish religion tolerates this.”

Following extract from: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/oct/07/israel-tzipi-livni

Sleep easy, war criminals

Michael Mansfield
"In 2009 Westminster magistrates court issued an arrest warrant for Tzipi Livni, the Israeli foreign minister at the time of Operation Cast Lead, which caused an estimated death toll of 1,400 in Gaza. Britain's Labour government hierarchy fell over itself rushing to the Israeli authorities, not about the deaths but to apologise for the warrant."
"In September the British government changed the ground rules by providing the director of public prosecutions with the power of veto over private applications for arrest warrants (in the Police Reform and Social Responsibility Act). It is an insult to the courts to insinuate that they cannot be trusted to assess the requisite threshold for issuing a warrant. In 10 years only two out of 10 such applications had been granted. We are dealing here with arrest, not charge."
"It is therefore highly unlikely that any prosecutions of consequence will ensue either at the instigation of the government itself or of an individual – as Livni's meeting with William Hague in London this week demonstrated. Given the British government's lacklustre performance in this field when it comes to nations or individuals who are seen to be unacceptable (eg Pinochet, where it took a Spanish magistrate to act), those in positions of command and responsibility at times when war crimes are committed can now rest easily in their beds."

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British Secret Intelligence: an 1988 Insight

Person experience of and attitude to, MI5, MI6 and GCHQ. Dated but of even more importance today. Incompetence and cover-up endemic. "The Hidden Depths of Treachery"?

"Senior officials and senior politicians didn't want to know. I went through every level of department, Foreign Office, Home Office with these allegations to Prime Minister level. Whilst Labour was in office, Conservative parliamentarians were most anxious to get involved in my allegations as a means of embarrassing the Labour administration. When the Conservatives came into office they backed off. Then Labour politicians were very interested to embarrass the Conservatives. I think this is shocking. I hear of politicians saying they are concerned about national security but there was no concern about the allegations I was making". 
Jock Kane Former GCHQ Radio Operator 

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jock_Kane

Has anything changed? Is it national interests at stake or purely party political and private ones? Is the state apparatus all directed at secrecy per se (to avoid embarrassment) rather than in the investigations of allegations of breaches of security or the commission of serious crime? That would certainly be the implication of recent cases such as Hampstead and Chevaline, not to mention the events surrounding the London Tube Bombings. Britain is hardly unique in such matters as we have seen in New York, Boston and Paris.

"We are getting ever more closely linked to America and in America of course we have the CIA and we have a sort of comparable publication to the Peter Wright book with Philip Agee (See: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/10/obituaries/10agee.html?_r=0) who blew what was going on in the CIA  and we read an account of what goes on in CIA that makes this dirt pale into insignificance. Now the sovereign rule is that if America does does something nowadays, we will trail along behind like the faithful dog, a pitiful pale imitation and if things go on as they are, it does seem to me that the things that the people round this table know about is going to get worse and the dirtiness of the tricks is going to get dirtier." (1.37)

How prescient was this 1988 prediction of Alastair Mackie Former Cabinet Secretary on the Joint Intelligence Committee - though not allowed to admit to its existence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caUG4L-3S30


"Published on 6 Jun 2013
Broadcast on 16 July 1988 Channel 4
This edition considers british intelligence, spies and traitors. Discussion Participants: Rt Hon Merlyn Rees MP Former Home Secretary and Secretary of State for Northern Ireland H. Montgomery Hyde Writer and former MI6 Officer Robert Harbinson Writer, composer and lecturer Air Commodore Alastair Mackie Former Cabinet Secretary on the Joint Intelligence Committee and Vice President of CND Robin Ramsay Radical Journalist and co-editor of Lobster Magazine Jock Kane Former GCHQ Radio Operator Gary Murray Journalist and former Private Investigator Note: This version includes the discussion between presenter and guests before transmission and throughout the commercial breaks."

Ex-MI5 Annie Machon Cambridge Talk - January 2011

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9LyP79w4kE



BBC MI5, MI6 and GCHQ IN FULL HEARING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWBoRceik_E




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Thursday, 25 February 2016

Trees in the Environment - Govt Response to Petition


The Government has responded to the petition you signed – “Make planting trees a priority to reduce flooding by improving soil and drainage”.
Government responded:
Trees can slow the flow of water down and reduce the impacts of floods; we are currently exploring the increased role that this could play in flood risk management.
Every part of our natural environment from our coasts, to our great landscapes, and clean air to productive soils, is a vital part of the success of our country; nature doesn’t exist in silos. By managing the environment in an integrated way we will gain key environmental, economic and social benefits. We are working on a 25 Year Environment Plan which will set out how we will deliver the best natural environment anywhere by making more integrated decisions, using catchments and landscapes as the building blocks rather than single species or features. This makes sense because we will deliver the most effective and efficient environmental improvements if we work with the natural systems that underpin the health of our environment.
We will structure our work around river catchments and landscapes that make up the environment. For the first time, we will have a plan and budget for each area rather than several organisations operating with different plans. We are going to be integrating these plans with the 25-year Plan. As part of this we will be starting four catchment pathfinder projects later this year— in a catchment, marine, and urban setting as well as one in a large rural landscape.
We also need to value our environmental assets for the full range of benefits they provide and incorporate this into the decisions we make. Using natural capital principles can help all of us to do this better, equipping us with a robust and consistent evidence base that can inform practical action on the ground. Data and technology are powerful tools to drive environmental understanding and improvement and Defra has committed to releasing 8,000 data sets by June 2016 to help spur this innovation and development. The tools being designed will give a consistent framework to empower local people to take decisions nationally and locally. For example, natural capital accounting will help calculate where woodland planting would provide the greatest benefits for plants and animals, recreation and reduced flood risk alongside the economic gains for forestry and farming.
Defra continues to support a number of leading research and demonstration projects to better understand the role that land management changes in our landscapes and catchments, such as tree planting, peatland restoration and habitat creation, could have in reducing flood risk. These include the Forest Research led ‘Slowing the Flow Partnership’ in Pickering, North Yorkshire, the National Trust led project at Holnicote Estate in North Somerset and the Making Space for Water’s project on the Upper Derwent catchment in Derbyshire.
These projects indicate that woodlands can slow the flow of water through smaller catchments and reduce the impacts of some floods. We will continue to support such investigations, gathering further evidence into the potential benefits that land management changes, such as tree planting in catchments, could have on reducing flood risk, in addition to the wider environmental and economic benefits that they could provide.
We are also supporting ongoing Forestry Commission research into the role that woodlands could play in reducing flood risk. The England Woodland Grant Scheme has already targeted 1,857 hectares of planting to help reduce flood risk and diffuse pollution in England. We have also designed the Countryside Stewardship Scheme in the new Rural Development Programme to help achieve multi-objectives including flooding and water management.
After the recent storms, it is also important to look at what happened and to learn lessons. That is why we have commissioned an in-depth review. This will give us a chance to look at our defences and ways of modelling to explore new ways of tackling floods in the future. This includes upstream land management options for slowing the flow to reduce the intensity of flood peak and build stronger links between local residents, community groups and flood defence planning.
The framework setting out the key themes for the 25-year environment plan will be published in spring 2016 and we’ll be working with a range of interested parties over 2016 to develop the full plan.
Department of Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

Jungle Destruction in Indonesia: Greenpeace Newsflash

 Hi Timothy,

The greatest environmental disaster of the 21st century happened last September. Yet this disaster will happen all over again in just a few months - unless we take action now.

Six months ago enormous forest fires tore across Indonesia - they reduced vibrant, living tropical rainforest and peatland to smoking ash. The fires spewed out more CO2 than the UK does in a year, made hundreds of thousands of people sick, and destroyed precious orangutan habitat.

Please sign the petition telling companies like PesiCo, Johnson & Johnson & Colgate Palmolive to stop the fires

The fires were no natural disaster. Over several decades, huge areas of Indonesian forest have been slashed and burned, and watery peatland has been drained for palm oil and paper plantations. That destruction is the root cause of the forest fires.

But we can stop this happening. Last year over 250,000 of us told the Indonesian president to stop letting companies destroy forests and peatlands. It worked - the president brought in ambitious new plans to protect Indonesian peatland. But now the big brands need to play ball. Please sign the petition:
https://secure.greenpeace.org.uk/forest-fires
These companies like to talk loudly about their 'no deforestation' policies. But despite promises and pledges, deforestation in Indonesia is actually getting worse. Empty promises aren’t working, because they’re not enforced on the ground. These brands have to give us real commitments, real timelines and real action against their suppliers who destroy forests and peatlands.
Sign the petition asking big brands to protect Indonesian rainforests

A forest fire in Indonesia may seem thousands of miles away, but the everyday products that cause this suffering are in our cupboards and on our bathroom shelves. Palm oil is in everything from cosmetics and shampoo to chocolate bars and breakfast cereals. It’s hard to avoid, and sustainable alternatives are so incredibly limited. The only answer is to change the entire industry. I hope I can count on you to be a part of protecting these last precious forests:
https://secure.greenpeace.org.uk/forest-fires

Thanks for all that you do,

Victoria & the forests team




... Meanwhile in the Amazon, crude oil spills into rivers with devastating ecological consequences. What are we doing to our world?

https://forcechange.com/153250/help-indigenous-communities-suffering-from-oil-spills/?utm_source=ForceChange+Newsletter&utm_campaign=31946bbbdb-619FC3_2_2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_600a6911b9-31946bbbdb-285354077

Target: Germán Velásquez Salazar, PetroPeru General Manager and Chairman
Goal: Pay for oil spill cleanup and compensate all local communities affected by the toxic environmental disaster.
There have been two oil pipeline spills in the Amazon since late January of this year. At least 3,000 barrels of petroleum were spilled into the river in Peru. While Brazil contains the largest part of the Amazon, Peru has the second largest section, now covered in black, thick crude oil sludge. The local community has been forced to come together to try and remove the oil from the river and soil.
These 250 locals that have no choice but to scoop up buckets of crude oil from the river, knowing that their labor-intensive task is nearly impossible and that it shouldn’t be their responsibility to clean up. The government says that Petroperu, the oil company responsible for the spill, will be sanctioned. Still, will it be enough?
Environmental scientists say that the damage to the environment will be long term. It is also alleged that Petroperu hired children to clean up the spill. Last year Petroperu was responsible for another massive oil spill for which it also hired children to clean for $28 dollars and without protective gear.
It’s not just the plants and animals that are suffering. At least eight indigenous communities use the two contaminated rivers for water. Peru’s government has had to declare a water quality emergency in various areas around the oil spill.  Demand that Petroperu, which is responsible for the spill, pay for all the cleanup efforts and compensate suffering and at-risk local communities.
PETITION LETTER:
Dear Chairman Salazar,
Have you seen the photos of the 250 locals attempting to clean 3,000 barrels of crude oil from the rivers? These locals and their respective indigenous communities are fighting to save the environment that provides them with their principle source of water and food. They are forced to attempt to clean out the black sludge from their once thriving river.
These locals are faced with the arduous and slow task of filling buckets with the crude oil in an attempt to make the thick, black river clean again. On their own, the plants and animals of the region will never recover. With cleanup efforts, that Petroperu should be responsible for, the area may begin to recover in several years.
The government has declared a water quality emergency in five areas near the oil spill. It is reported that the spill is also contaminating the cacao trees downstream. The locals have no water and soon they will also have their livelihoods ruined.
It is PetroPeru’s responsibility to provide clean water and all necessary assistance to those affected by the spill. I demand that Petroperu pay for all the cleanup efforts and compensate suffering and at-risk local communities for the damages to their contaminated crops and soil.
Sincerely,
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Wednesday, 24 February 2016

Fukushima – Deep Trouble

by ROBERT HUNZIKER

FEBRUARY 22, 2016

from 'Counter Punch' here:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/22/fukushima-deep-trouble/
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The Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant disaster may go down as one of history’s boundless tragedies and not just because of a nuclear meltdown, but rather the tragic loss of a nation’s soul.
Imagine the following scenario: 207 million cardboard book boxes, end-to-end, circumnavigating Earth, like railroad tracks, going all the way around the planet. That’s a lot of book boxes. Now, fill the boxes with radioactive waste. Forthwith, that’s the amount of radioactive waste stored unsheltered in one-tonne black bags throughout Fukushima Prefecture, amounting to 9,000,000 cubic metres
But wait, there’s more to come, another 13,000,000 cubic metres of radioactive soil is yet to be collected. (Source: Voice of America News, Problems Keep Piling Up in Fukushima, Feb. 17, 2016).
And, there’s still more, the cleanup operations only go 50-100 feet beyond roadways. Plus, a 100-mile mountain range along the coast and hillsides around Fukushima are contaminated but not cleansed at all. As a consequence, the decontaminated land will likely be re-contaminated by radioactive runoff from the hills and mountains.
Indubitably, how and where to store millions of cubic metres of one-tonne black bags filled with radioactive waste is no small problem. It is a super-colossal problem. What if bags deteriorate? What if a tsunami hits? The “what-ifs” are endless, endless, and beyond.
“The black bags of radioactive soil, now scattered at 115,000 locations in Fukushima, are eventually to be moved to yet-to-be built interim facilities, encompassing 16 square kilometers, in two towns close to the crippled nuclear power plant,” Ibid.
By itself, 115,000 locations each containing many, many, mucho one-tonne bags of radioactive waste is a logistical nightmare, just the trucking alone is forever a humongous task, decades to come.
According to Japanese government and industry sources, cleaning up everything and decommissioning the broken down reactors will take at least 40 years at a cost of $250 billion, assuming nothing goes wrong. But dismally, everything that can possibly go wrong for Tokyo Electric Power Company (“TEPCO”) over the past 5 years has gone wrong, not a good record.
And, Japan is hosting the 2020 Olympics?
Yet, Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant remains totally out of control with no end in sight. As far as that goes, Olympic events alongside an out of control nuclear meltdown seem unfathomable.
As recently as October 30, 2015, The Japan Times reported: “Extremely high radiation levels and the inability to grasp the details about melted nuclear fuel make it impossible for the utility to chart the course of its planned decommissioning of the reactors at the plant.”
On the other hand, according to TEPCO, preparation is underway for removal of the melted nuclear fuel, scheduled to begin in 2021. “But it is difficult to know what is happening inside the reactors, and there are no established methods for doing so… It is not difficult to get a camera inside the reactor. The problem is the camera breaks down due to high levels of radiation,” according to Toru Ogawa, director of the Japan Atomic Energy Agency’s Collaborative Laboratories for Advanced Decommissioning Science (Kiyoshi Ando, senior staff writer, Long Road Ahead for Fukushima Cleanup, Nikkei Asian Review, Feb. 19, 2016).
Beyond the remote possibility they find the melted nuclear core aka: corium, engineers have not yet figured out how to cart the molten core away, assuming it can ever be located, and somehow handled. Meantime, if molten core burrows through the steel-reinforced concrete containment vessels into Earth, then what? It is likely a disaster for the ages! But, what about the Olympics?
If perchance melted nuclear core penetrates its steel-reinforced concrete containment vessel and burrows into the ground, it likely results in deadly isotopes uncontrollably spreading erratically, ubiquitously into surrounding underground soil and water. It is difficult to imagine Olympic events where melted nuclear core is still at large.
“Sporting events at the 2020 Tokyo Olympics are to be held in the Japanese region of Fukushima… Spectators and athletes in the Olympic village will be served with food from the region as part of an effort to restore the reputation of Fukushima, formerly one of Japan’s richest agricultural regions,” Fukushima to Host Olympic 2020 Events, The Times, Feb. 25, 2015.
The Tragedy of Countless Unreported Worker Deaths
Indeed, the question of whether Fukushima can ever be adequately, safely decontaminated is wide-open, which logically segues to question who does the dirty work, how workers are hired, and what’s their health status? According to mainstream news sources in Japan, workers are doing just fine, estimates range up to 45,000 workers all-in, no major problems.
As far as the world is concerned, the following headline sums up radiation-related issues for workers, First Fukushima Worker Diagnosed With Radiation-linked Cancer, The Telegraph, Oct. 20, 2015. All things considered, that’s not so bad. But, who’s counting?
Trustworthy sources outside of mainstream news claim otherwise, none more so than Mako Oshidori, a Japanese freelance journalist and a director of Free Press Corporation/Japan, and a former student of School of Life Sciences at Tottori University Faculty of Medicine, in a lecture entitled “The Hidden Truth about Fukushima” delivered at the international conference “Effects of Nuclear Disasters on Natural Environment and Human Health” held in Germany in 2014 co-organized by International Physicians for Prevention of Nuclear War.
Free Press Corporation/Japan was formed after the 2011 Great Sendai Earthquake as a counterbalance to Japan’s mainstream government influenced media, described by Mako as journalists who do not report truth, journalists afraid of the truth!
“There is one thing that really surprised me here in Europe. It’s the fact that people here think Japan is a very democratic and free country.” (Mako Oshidori)
According to Mako, TEPCO and the government deliberately cover-up deaths of Fukushima workers, and not only do they cover-up deaths, but once she investigated stories of unreported deaths, government agents started following her: “When I would talk to someone, a surveillance agent from the central government’s public police force would come very close, trying to eavesdrop on the conversation,” Exposed: Death of Fukushima Workers Covered-Up by TEPCO and Government, NSNBC International, March 21, 2014.
Mako Oshidori: “I would like to talk about my interview of a nurse who used to work at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant (NPP) after the accident… He quit his job with TEPCO in 2013, and that’s when I interviewed him… As of now, there are multiple NPP workers that have died, but only the ones who died on the job are reported publicly. Some of them have died suddenly while off work, for instance, during the weekend or in their sleep, but none of their deaths are reported.”
“Not only that, they are not included in the worker death count. For example, there are some workers who quit the job after a lot of radiation exposure, such as 50, 60 to 70 mili Sieverts, and end up dying a month later, but none of these deaths are either reported, or included in the death toll. This is the reality of the NPP workers.”
The “reality of the NPP workers… dying a month later” does not correspond very well with Abe administration insistence that nuke plants reopen, even though the country has continued to function for five years without nuclear power, hmm.
In her speech, Mako talks about problems for journalists because of government interference: “An ex-agent who is knowledgeable about the work of the Public Security Intelligence Agency (“PSIA”) said that when you are visibly followed, that was meant to intimidate you. If there was one person visible, then there would be ten more. I think that is analogous to cockroaches. So, when you do a little serious investigation about the nuclear accident, you are under various pressure and it makes it more difficult to interview people.”
Still, she interviewed Fukushima mothers, e.g., “Next, I would like to talk about mothers in Fukushima. These mothers (and fathers) live in Iwaki City, Fukushima. They are active on school lunch issues. Currently, Fukushima produce isn’t selling well due to suspected contamination. So the prefectural policy is to encourage the use of Fukushima produce in school lunches, in an attempt to appeal to its safety… the mothers claim that currently in Japan only cesium is measured and they have no idea if there is any strontium-90. They oppose the use of Fukushima produce in school lunches for fear of finding out, ten-plus years down the road, that there was actually plutonium in the food that children ate.”
Mothers who oppose the prefecture’s luncheon policy are told to leave Fukushima Prefecture, move out if they worry about contamination, pull up stakes and move on.
Mako’s full interview is found here.
All of which begs the question of who does the dirty work? According to Michel Chossudovsky, director of Centre for Research on Globalization (Canada), Japan’s organized crime syndicate Yakusa is actively involved in recruitment. Personnel who qualify for radioactive cleanup work include underemployed, impoverished, indigent, unemployed, homeless, hard up, down-and-out, and poverty-stricken individuals, as well as non-destitute people willing to undertake under-paid, high-risk work. The nameless are shoe-ins.
As intimated by Mako Oshidori, governmental secrecy laws and intimidation techniques vastly overshadow the tragedy of the disaster, an oppressive black cloud that won’t go away. People are scared to say anything for fear of reprisal, jail, and blacklisting. Mako Oshidori’s name is prominently secretly blacklisted. A government mole told her.
Accordingly, it is instructive to look at Japan’s new state secrecy law Act on the Protection of Specially Designated Secrets (SDS) Act No. 108 of 2013 passed on the heels of the Fukushima meltdown, very similar to Japan’s harsh Public Peace and Order Controls of WWII. According to Act No. 108, the “act of leaking itself” is bad enough for prosecution, regardless of what, how, or why.
Thereupon, Susumu Murakoshi, president of the Japan Federation of Bar Associations says: “The law should be abolished because it jeopardizes democracy and the people’s right to know,” Abe’s Secrets Law Undermines Japan’s Democracy, The Japan Times, Dec. 13, 2014.
Public opinion is shaped by public knowledge of events, but the Abe government’s enactment of an extraordinarily broad dastardly secrecy law (almost anyone can be arrested) that threatens prison sentences up to 10 years undermines confidence in believability of the Japanese government.
But categorically, Japan needs to nurture confidence.
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Hampstead Abuse Case - One Year On

Fifteen months have now elapsed since two Hampstead children were forcibly removed from their mother without good reason. They have not been returned and remain in the care system. The only people prosecuted to date have been individuals who sought to represent the mother and children. Almost a year ago, the children's maternal Russian grandparents were interviewed. The moving session was published on the web and can be viewed here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF1ewVyHMVw . With criminal prosecutions of two activists imminently pending, in addition to a further Family Court hearing to determine the fate of the children, many may be interested to read or refresh their memory of the debate attached to the video. Needless to say the children and their welfare has been encased in almost total state secrecy and contact with their mother prevented. None of their accusations have been properly investigated.  People should be advised that the genetic father against whom many of the complaints were made, has been noted for multiple internet personalities, some of which are revealed here. Readers will make up their own minds what, if anything, this suggests.

MANY MORE COMMENTS CAN BE VIEWED ON THE YOUTUBE VIDEO.

Tim Veater11 months ago
re. Hampstead alleged abused children I feel obliged to write to you regarding the above, in a case that is currently pending before Her Hon. Judge Dame Pauffley. The case has attracted international attention, so I am sure I am not the only one to express concern regarding it. The eyes of the world are upon what has happened to date and the need for a speedy and just resolution in the best interests of the children involved. The process and outcome will be viewed as an acid test, in the context of numerous recent high profile cases, most recently in Oxford, of both Judge Pauffley's public pronouncements and the whole British justice system. We are not in a position to know whether the well publicised claims of the children, are true in fact or not. We are however able to conclude that they have been remarkably consistent and detailed, displaying anatomical, physiological, geographical and procedural information, that in children of that age is highly unlikely to have been gained from imagination or coaching alone, even were that to be the case. Perhaps more importantly the information has been corroborated (incredibly ignored by police) by medical, behavioural and third party evidence. In short their statements have been credible and compelling and must not be dismissed out of hand, as appears to have been done so far. Secondly, were we to accept that the children's testimony was embroidered, exaggerated or even inaccurate, in part at least, it is thoroughly consistent in this regard at least, that the natural father is the subject and focus of the specific claims of abuse. This is corroborated by other evidence of related violence, in which the police were involved, that led to the mother being given full custody and limitations placed on his access, which it is alleged he flouted, seeing the children, it is claimed by them, daily. They also claim they were under threat of death by him were they to reveal what he had done. Yet despite this, quite incredibly, he has apparently been afforded access to the children by the Family Court, whilst the mother, against whom no suggestion of abuse has been levelled, indeed both children in police interviews repeatedly restated her love and care, has been forced to flee the country, on threat of arrest! Thirdly, in view of the nature of the allegation by two young children, of both rape and murder, the police approach has been as inexplicable as it has been incompetent.  As far as it appears, no concrete steps were taken to properly inquire into the specific allegations, either to substantiate or disprove them. This repeats what has been revealed most recently in the Oxford and Rotherham cases - i.e. a refusal to believe or to act on information received. This is then compounded by the way the children were treated in three interview situations that are now widely available on the internet. Can it be right that these highly vulnerable children were questioned by a male officer, alone and unsupported? Has the Metropolitan Police learned nothing in such cases? Further that the evidence is there to see that the officer in question appears unable or unwilling to seek detailed information about the alleged abuse or to follow natural lines of enquiry provided by the children's statements. Rather quite the opposite, on the third occasion, seeks to prompt confusion and retraction, upon which flimsy basis the police decide no further action is necessary. In contrast to this inactivity, "ten burly officers", could be provided, to arrest, without warrant, the mother at her home? What sort of 'topsy turvy' - even corrupt - country are we living in, when officers sworn to protect life and property and uphold the law, operate in such a perverse fashion? In the light of all this, I sincerely hope that justice will at last prevail, and the High Court at least can be trusted to secure it, by returning the children without further delay to their mother or at least the maternal grand parents, who appear more than competent to provide them with a safe and caring home, that all the grandeur of the British State has so far, conspicuously failed to do. Yours sincerely, Tim Veater.

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Momai777 
Momai77711 months ago
Well stated logic, thank you.
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Lyn Smith 
Lyn Smith11 months ago
Well said indeed, Tim. Ah yes, the voice of reason. I remember it well. All be it a dim and distant memory in the Britain of today.
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Tim Veater 
Tim Veater11 months ago
+Edmondo Willy suggest you study the article below. It might help your understanding of the issue. http://www.gundersenhealth.org/upload/docs/NCPTC/CenterPiece/Vol1%20Issue%206.pdf
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Edmondo Willy 
Edmondo Willy11 months ago
+Tim Veater So you aren't qualified to comment and have no inside knowledge of the police investigation then?
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Tim Veater 
Tim Veater11 months ago
More or less than you?
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Lyn Smith 
Lyn Smith11 months ago
Edmondo. Why are you being so vile to people on this comment site? There is absolutely no reason for it. State your opinion and leave it at that. No need for personal attacks. Unless perhaps that is all you have
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Edmondo Willy 
Edmondo Willy11 months ago
+Lyn Smith Questioning somebody on whether they are qualified to make assessments on how the children act on video is not being vile.
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7miranda 
7miranda11 months ago
+Edmondo Willy Every loving mother who has grown up children - and most loving fathers too - are more qualified to assess all the videos that the children spoke in ...way more qualified than the SS women and the police thugs who make profit for themselves and the government by fulfilling a 'quota' by taking a set number of children away from their parents each month. You are obviously a troll
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Kathryn Quella 
Kathryn Quella10 months ago
Please add my name to this petition too. I agree to the above written statement by Tim Veater. Thank you, Kathryn Quella
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Not SoFast 
Not SoFast4 months ago
+Tim Veater Loving mother allowed Abe to jam that spoon into Alyssa's jaw. Do not ever let that freak (mother) have those kids. She makes them yummy hemp soup. Mom will continue to bring boyfriends. She is unfit.
  
Diane Evans 
Diane Evans3 months ago
What happened to these children and their mother, grand parents?
  
Betty Pak 
Betty Pak11 months ago
Are the children being kept from their grandparents so that the children can be brainwashed? Trauma is an aspect of brainwashing.
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pookster78 
pookster7811 months ago
No,it's because social services cannot trust that the grandparents won't allow ED and AC access to the children, or try take them abroad.  Further, the father has legal rights to see the children, as they are British citizens, which would be complicated by them living with the grandparents. If the mother had stood up to Abrahams little plan she would still have the kids.
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Betty Pak 
Betty Pak11 months ago
pookster78...thanks...
  
Rob James 
Rob James11 months ago
+pookster78 So why were the questions not allowed, such as 'what have you done in your free time?' 'Are you being bullied'
  
pookster78 
pookster7811 months ago (edited)
+Rob James They are generic questions so that a parent with some access does not get to know the every day pattern of the childrens lives. Basically in case someone tries to kidnap  their children back. These grandparents gave evidence on March 4th to the custody hearing. They say in their opinion the stories the children told are fantasy and nonsense.
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Igor Proskurov (iPro Vision) 
Igor Proskurov (iPro Vision)11 months ago
+pookster78 It's too much of you here, trying to put nonsense. People here are not as stupid as you think or hope.Could you do us a favour please? Find another place for your typing. I can even refer you a company, you definitely know him (Edmondo). )))
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Rob James 
Rob James11 months ago
+pookster78 oh ok, that makes sense. It's pretty convincing after watching the confession interviews from the children that they made it up. Still one thing is the injuries to the boy, he didn't have an answer for. I guess we will never know.
  
Igor Proskurov (iPro Vision) 
Igor Proskurov (iPro Vision)11 months ago
+pookster78 As I said many times "no real person - no discussion". Nobody ask questions to you personally. So, please, find another place.
  
pookster78 
pookster7811 months ago (edited)
+Rob James It has come to light in the judges review that the medical examiner passed her findings to colleagues for peer review and they believe the scarring would be a normal variate. The more concerning point for the examiner was lack of reflex anal dilation. However, current literature has discredited RAD as a sign of abuse because it is not as rare as once thought among non abused children. Further, it can be caused by constipation, which Gabriel complains about, or medical treatments involving anal insertion (the mother gave these kids enemas). The kids complained of a green liquid they would be given which resulted in stomach ache. Drug testing found the THC levels in the kids were equivalent to repeated cannabis use, and not just low THC expected from hemp juice.It would seem "Papa Hemp" was drugging these kids.
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pookster78 
pookster7811 months ago
+Igor Proskurov First, you have not said it to me and it comes over as a cop out to be honest. Further, you don't seem to say it to people who agree with you. I understand it's your video which you have put in the public domain. Maybe if you don't want discussion then don't post public videos. I never asked you to discuss anything with me, nor did I instigate discussion with you.
  
Igor Proskurov (iPro Vision) 
Igor Proskurov (iPro Vision)11 months ago
+pookster78 OK, fair enough, I haven't said it to you in this clear form ( I think, I asked you somehow before why we have to believe in your opinion if we don't know who you are?) But, now you know. As to people who "agree" with me (and you can see that the number of them can't be even compare with the number of people like you) you're abslolutely right. I don't care about their real names by two reasons. 1. I don't need to spend my time to "answer" their questions or for discussion. Also, they don't abuse and offence people with real names and who I respect.  2. This is public video, public domain but... this is my "room". So if my friends and guests don't like to see you here, why do you try to get in?If I come to the place and don't like it or people who're in it I just walk away. Simples.As to discussions - just show us who you're then we can talk to you about substance... Otherwise it's just wasting the time. You can argue the same way with the street wall were is written something like "f.. blah blah blah"...)Have a good night, hope you've got my points.
  
pookster78 
pookster7811 months ago
+Igor Proskurov This is youtube, it is possible to keep your "room" private. I hope you see the hypocrisy in that though as the people you support are the ones moaning about private family courts. Transparency swings both ways. You don't have to answer my questions or discuss anything with me. I don't think I have been particularly abusive or offensive to anybody. If you are talking about people such as Belinda McKenzie and Sabine, then they open themselves to public scrutiny and are the ones asking for everything to be in public. What I have said about them is fair for the most part and is on point about their actions in this case. I don't understand why knowing my real name would make a difference. It is just a label to identify who I am. It bears no relevance to the points of discussion surrounding this case. In the same way the points made by the group Anonymous are no less relevant just because we don't know each of their identities. In fact, the point of being anonymous is so people focus on the case, and not on ad hominem attacks or threats.  
  
Igor Proskurov (iPro Vision) 
Igor Proskurov (iPro Vision)11 months ago
+pookster78 "This is youtube, it is possible to keep your "room" private." - of course, but I'm not "closing the door" for anyone. You're welcome to "come in", to watch and to have your opinion. And you had chances to see that I and "my guests" don't try hard to convince you in what we believe. But you do. Why?" I hope you see the hypocrisy " - not at all... As I said earlier you're welcome to com in, to watch and to have your opinion. But you don't need to become a main person at the "stage". Do you really like to be at the party when nobody likes you?"You don't have to answer my questions or discuss anything with me" - of course I don't have to. But you're my guest here and you leave your words on the walls in my room. "I don't think I have been particularly abusive or offensive to anybody" - but I do think so."I don't understand why knowing my real name would make a difference" - really? don't understand such simple thing? There are many reasons:1. I want to be sure that you're not trollollo. ( Don't want to waste my and my guests/friends time on trolls.) Actually, I already spent a lot of time on you.2. To know who are you, what are you doing for life and what are your interests, who are your friends just give me an idea what your opinion is based on, what kind of education you have and so on.If you're a children's father friend - don't want to waste time on you. If you're a barnet council solicitor or SS worker - don't want to waste time on you. If you're Abraham ex-wife - don't want waste time on you.So, the question is about the time, not about "attacks" or threats.Hope you understand my position. I don't come to your house (specially with anonymous mask) and put the furniture what I like but you. So, I expected from you the same in reply.We know your opinion in general. Thank you very much. If you want to discuss the details (I can answer many (if not all) your questions that you raised here but would prefer to do it on the equal basis. You know me. If you want talk to me ( or in my "room" ) please be so kind to introduce yourself.Have a nice day.
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pookster78 
pookster7811 months ago
+Igor Proskurov Check my response to Poly Hedra for my motivation. This ain't a party or a popularity contest. Unless you are one of the people the judge described, doing this for YT views. If my opinion and highlighting uncomfortable truths makes me unpopular, I can live with that. Really, go through the comments here and show me what you found offensive and abusive? A troll would be off topic instead of focussing on the subject matter. I am the one wanting to focus on the subject matter. No, I don't know you. I just know that someone, who could be anyone, has an account using the name Igor Proskurov.I don't know anything else about you. I am not in any way related or friends with anybody involved or named in this case. I am David Forbes. I like football, music, reading, movies, science, the natural world, drinking with my friends and women. My opinion is based on the videos, audios, legal documents, medical reports and life experience. Now, will you be a man of integrity or come up with some other excuse?
  
Igor Proskurov (iPro Vision) 
Igor Proskurov (iPro Vision)11 months ago
+pookster78 "Check my response to Poly Hedra for my motivation" - don't have time to search your comments. There are too many of them here.You see, you're not even polite to me (who you come as a guest to), trying to make me spend time instead to copy and paste at least, if you're busy.Secondly, actually firstly, when I asked you to introduce yourself I expected some kind of proofs that you're real person. There are thousands David Forbes' in UK. Which one is you? "Really, go through the comments here and show me what you found offensive and abusive?" - O don't have to go to far... I found even your last reply quite unfriendly. You don't bother yourself to answer me (just send me to make a search), you try several time to pick on me... Not the best way to make a dialog, from my life experience. )Regarding what your opinion is based on... I'm not going to discuss here this case with you... Actually, this particular video was about loving grandparents and grandchildren who wants to live as the family. Do you have any issue to the grandparents? Do you have any issue to the children? Why are you talking here about mother, partner, father etc.? Do you  carefully watch the video? Grandparents clearly said - give us the children and then you can do investigations, charges, cases against whoever you want and do it for as long as you want. That's it. How medical reports or legal documents related to this video?You said that from the questions to children "How are you?" or "does anyone bullying you" grandparents can found out the daily pattern of the children and kidnap them? Do you believe in what you said?You said that the children should stay in UK as they were born in uk... There are millions people from around the word who live in the uk by different reasons (work is one of them), give birth to their babies... Should the children stay in the uk when their parents go back home? You said that the children were born in uk and they are british... Are you sure that they don't have Russian citizenship as well? And how do you know it?If you take as ABSOLUTE TRUTH the judgment of the only one person, if you believe that BBC and other MSM give you ABSOLUTE TRUTH, if you believe that police not able to do anything bad and so on - then you are too young or may be came here out of another world.Well, it's too much from me now... ))))Sorry, There are a lot of materials in this case, a lot of people are involved, it's quite big and complicated case... so don't have time to discuss it here.If you want you can come to the next demo and we can discuss it in more details. If you really do care about these children lets meet next time and talk and may be you can do something positive in real.At the same time, I would appreciate if you agree with me to close the discussion at this page.Thank you.
  
pookster78 
pookster7810 months ago
+Igor Proskurov So you are not going to discuss this case here with me, yet you claimed you had the answers. The reality is you wanted to know my personal details. Right now, you know more about me than I do about you.  I have no problem with the grandparents, they agree with me that the stories are fantasy and nonsense. I have no problem with the kids. Please read up on "Leave to remove" (abroad) laws. Both parents have parental responsibility. They both have rights of access. If one parent wants to remove a child from their country of birth, there are 3 mechanisms: 1. The parent (in this case father) gives written permission. 2. The mother can prove the father is an unfit parent. 3. The moving parent can show they will leave but give reasonable access to the other parent. In this case there is criteria: a) that they are not moving to spite the other parent b) they can show how the kids will be cared for and their welfare fully met. Under the Hague Convention on Child Abduction any child taken from their country of birth without the above is considered abduction. In terms of this case: - The grandparents have no parental responsibility. - The father has not been found guilty of any crime, so keeps his parental responsibility and will likely get primary custody. - The mothers boyfriend is a child abuser, shown to abuse these children and would be perceived as taking the kids abroad to spite the father. In short, there is no way the mother or grandparents can remove those children without permission from the father. The only way the mother can get access is if she moves back to the UK and truly ends her relationship with Abraham. Yet, Belinda is outside court saying there is no reason why the kids can't go away with the grandparents and that judge Pauffley can make that decision. Both those assertions are wrong. The father can stop the children being taken and Pauffley is bound by the Hague Convention, she can't just make it up as she goes along. What you need to think about is why Belinda does not know this. Belinda acts as a legal adviser yet has no idea of what the law states. Do you not think that if Belinda is going to act as a Mckenzie Friend, she should have at least researched where the grandparents and mother stands legally?
  
Igor Proskurov (iPro Vision) 
Igor Proskurov (iPro Vision)10 months ago
+pookster78 "The reality is you wanted to know my personal details" - not at all. I want to know that you're real person and I want to know how do you connect to the people involved in this case. So, I still don't have this information."I have no problem with the grandparents, they agree with me that the stories are fantasy and nonsense. "  - not true. They don't agree with you. This is what pauffley said. Grandparents said that they don't WANT to know anything about this (and I can understand why and they still don't know the story), also, the grandparents have had no chance to speak with the grandkids about what had happened. So, how the grandparents can say that this is nonsense if they didn't speak to kids? The right word that they can said is "nothing"."I have no problem with the kids" - so, you think it's good for kids to stay at the SS, right?And you don't see anything wrong or suspicious in the fact that grandparents refused to see the kids, do you? (Also, grandparents said that they can stay in UK if this is required to take custody of the kids.)Regarding everything else you wrote I just can repeat. 1. Don't have to much time to waste it on some not real person. 2. The difference between people like me, Belinda and thousands others from one side and you, pauffley and people like you from the other side is that we do care about children and are trying to help children but you do your best to find "an article" in the "law" which help you to cover-up and protect all kind of "rings"...
  
pookster78 
pookster7810 months ago
+Igor Proskurov The Russian grandparents described the allegations as "total nonsense and fantasies" and Abraham has even persuaded the mother not to tell the grandparents where they are hiding. It also turns out that the children were exposed to THC at such levels it came from cannabis, and not just hemp. The grandparents can try to gain custody in the UK but have no legal standing to do so. I think that would be the best solution right now, with conditions. The grandparents did get to see the kids. This isn't about sides, at least not for me. It is about the kids. I can't change the law to suit myself and neither can Pauffley go against the Hague Convention. You need to start being realistic. Remember, the only reason the mother does not have custody now is because her boyfriend abused (and it would seem drugged) those kids, while she turned a blind eye.
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Igor Proskurov (iPro Vision) 
Igor Proskurov (iPro Vision)10 months ago
+pookster78 Don't see any reason to discuss any further... I always was talking about children and grandparents only, why do you try to tell me about Abraham all the time? "grandparents described the allegations as "total nonsense and fantasies" " - see my comments above. OK.1. You trust in pauffley judjment.- Accepted. (We don't) 2. You believe that the story is made up. - Accepted. (We don't) 3. You believe that Abraham and mother the main persons who to blame. - Accepted. (We don't) 4. You believe that it's right decision to put children to SS. - Accepted. (We don't) 5. You believe that it's better for children to stay in UK. - Accepted. (We don't) 6. You believe that children should be given to the father for custody. - Accepted. (We don't) 7. You don't believe that there is corruption, cover-up and protection the cults, paedo rings etc. at all level of the society (court, police, local authorities, parliament etc.). - Accepted. (We do!) Anything else to say?   Your voice have been heard. Your opinion is very clear. No need to get deep into details. Hope you will agree.
  
MVPappas60 
MVPappas6010 months ago (edited)
+Betty Pak They may also be threatened not to talk anymore and if they do they most likely are being told they will kill their Grandparents or mother. This is a global satanic society as their are many different umbrella societies of the same. Have you heard of any updates ? I pray for those children and the Grandparents and hope they do start to believe in our merciful God and know that Jesus will answer
  
Betty Pak 
Betty Pak10 months ago
MVPappas60...Yes, you are right about this being widespread. I have heard some about Jersey Island. I know some people are doing independent investigations.You may want to look into youtube.com Investigate Christ Church primary school.
  
MVPappas60 
MVPappas6010 months ago
+Betty Pak Thank you I have heard many years ago watching Mr. Maloney and his investigations after his brother was murdered. I always pray for the children.
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Betty Pak 
Betty Pak10 months ago
MVPappas60, yes....we are in some dark times. Be blessed and covered by the blood of our Lord Jesus.

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